Drak

I'm looking for 15 of them and will pay $15 + shipping ($20 if no shipping costs).

pm if you have them to sell

-Drak

I'm in

I say do it!! 'as is' models make for more dynamic armies.

I'm totally taking this idea for my club! very cool.

I think with UL TK being Able to march AND move with the spell you dot need the unreliable factor that ETBS brings to the picture

is this one of the 12 steps for wahammer recovery?

was there a house ruling in a coven throne joining the unit of chariots?

your list as is had few redirectors putting the role onto your more valuable units. is it possible to get 1/2 units of fell bats?

I like the unit as is. serves a nice role for the cost

ML I think reactionary list building like you mentioned in your post is what contributes to the problem. I would instead encourage you to play the list you want to and if your opponent brings the filth (in your opinion) then tell them that while you mention it wasn't fun to play against. it's on them to get the message or they will find a lack of opponents and thus games.

when you bing cheese to counter cheese you set the time for the gaming environment and new players who show up are introduced to a culture that is not representative of what Ordo is striving to put forth (IMO).

the spring league went up that high (and special characters might be allowed then as prep for OFCC if true swed comp is used) so there is hope for the spring :)

it's very much still a WIP. and my camera sucks to no end so no pics as of yet. also still trying to decide what to compliment the model with army wise so not a project that I'm actively working on. but someday.... it will be glorious!

sounds great. I'm a big fan of magnetizing so excited to see how it comes out. I used the stonehorn as my 'spirit horde' for a Mortis engine conversion and agree that the moment you put something on it's back it gets ridiculously tall!

I think you've got target saturation for the to make it into combat (which is where you want it). a strong offensive build on the character can yield amazing results. the problem I ran into with the throne is enemies offering up a champ or hero as challenge bait and because of the different Initives not being able to capitalize on a large amount of overkill. for that reason taking the hero as a bsb is a very wise choice.

the throne is more than capable of holding it's own against a block of infantry. battle of wills is gimicky but usually provides at least the -1ws/bs (when within range of the general). it's a lot of points to put into a hero (around 500 for an optimal build) but when you factor in what it can do an how GOOD it looks I think it's worth it.

my build of choice: lv 2 beasts, bsb, lance, ha, shield, aura of dark majesty, forbidden lore. talisman of endurance, OTS.

no way is Volkmar overcoming Nagash. just straight up not going to happen. as for Gelt...... he has turned to the appropriate dark side, may he enjoy eternal life..... mwahahaha.

great looking list. few drops, but I think it will be effective regardless. and you're basing on that model is well done.

as one who has read the new books I doubt Franz will be one of the ones to fall. or the fabled Green Knight as they just brought him

back to unify the Bretonian forces. but then again I know nothing....

are we certain that they are eluding human cities/heros??

can you have a magic banner and magic items on a character?

for most warmachines I would think using the 'distribute as shooting' aspect of the special rule you use the warmachines toughness.

hexwraiths are a special attack that are distributed as shooting. following the distributed as shooting rules but they aren't considered melee or shooting specifically, they are a special attack.

you'll need master of the dead upgrade to raise extra skellies to units.

I think Hero's fix for fear/terror is spot on.

I love my zombie dragon lord. :) at low points he's vulnerable and more of a show piece. usually stuck as a lv 1 lore of vamps (hope for van hels for the rerolls as you won't have points for quickblood and the model REALLY needs to be able to generate CR). charmed shield, terrain, and strategic placement are crucial as anyone with a canon it a few shots away from toastin most of your army (freakin crumble.....grrrr).

even going basic build at low levels (lance/gw, charmed shield, ToP, OTS, lv 1, couple vampiric powers) he gets expensive. I've found it better to kit him out using the full 25% allotment for survival mitigates some of the risk.

I'm all about dragons, my teammates can attest to my wanting all armies to field a dragon of some sort, they aren't just plain cool :) and easily customizable.

DRAGONS!!!! do it!

-win combat due to having a musician.

-assault a garrisoned building and force the opponent to flee the building.

-have a wizard lose all his wizard levels.

I like you're take on WE do far. and good job on the basing and paint, eyes are hard!

ML I agree that hexwraiths are powerful, my intent was to clarify that using hexwraith as they are intended isn't "cheesy" and to point out that they only benefit from their drive-through ability Once per unit per phase so the TK spell/effect that allows additional movement doesn't grant hexwraiths damage each time it's caste in a phase. no spam drive throughs.