McNathanson Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Hoping this is a simple question since my last few have turned into long threads (interesting ones, mind you, but not what I intended!)The Dark Venom poison gives an Assassin Killing Blow: "A model with Dark Venmo has the Killing Blow special rule." The Manbane poison gives an Assassin +1 on Wound rolls:"A model with Manbane receives a +1 bonus on all rolls To Wound (rolls of 1 still fail)." Killing Blow (the pertinent part):"If a model with the Killing Blow special rule rolls a 6 to wound in close combat, he automatically slays his opponent…"Based on that text, I would say, NO, the +1 To Wound doesn't mean he generates a KB on a 5+, because it says if he ROLLS a 6… which I generally construe to mean "unmodified roll", but... … sadly throughout the BRB, the term "roll" is used to mean "modified roll", not "unmodified roll". So the question still seems to stand.I personally would say NO, but that's mainly just a judgement call, I don't see any clear evidence either way, so I'm curious what others think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraf Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 You can play that the rolls of 5 are killing blow yet then rolls of 6 would be 7 and therefore not killing blow. Easier to just say natural 6 are killing blow. What ever way you play make sure your opponent knows though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring_of_Gyges Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I love it. You hit with rolls of X or more, and wound with rolls of Y or more, but killing blow triggers on Z, not Z or more. A natural five becomes a six and a killing blow, but a natural six becomes a seven and not a killing blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 No, you don't get killing blow on a 5+. Shadowblade isn't worth his points. Most skaven assassin builds are better than he is. I mention him because he's the only assassin with both upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNathanson Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah I know Shadowblade is crappy and I don't use Special Characters anyway, so I'm totally just asking out of curiosity!BTW Iraf: cute :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 Yeah I know Shadowblade is crappy and I don't use Special Characters anyway, so I'm totally just asking out of curiosity! BTW Iraf: cute :) Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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