Talonwinter

Just rapping up mine as well. All most forgot my lictor. Poor guy was feeling Stealthy with his shade gray.lol See you in the morning.

So a troop choice with st 6 ....ap 3. Tryanids are going to so hate Tau. How are you post to assault when they can kill you at rane or at close range. Really ap3 on a whole troop unit. Eldar was bad now this. And people say troops are no good. lol

Lovely. 10 min to spare?????

The store says 11am are the opening up early for us? The guys inside seamed confused when I dropped by a few days ago. I will be there at 10 since you are the High Over Lord. Never go vs the guy with the goodies// sustenance..

That place sounds interesting but I think the say on the web site they want 24 to 48 hours for orders to go. it does sound really good though. I would give them a call one last time cause it looked and sounded really good. LOL

Thier is a lot of bio mass here even for me. I love another Hive Fleet joining in the buffet:) I even splite the steaks your feeding oh High one!!! LOL your arm is going to get tierd keep everyone alive.

Did you get mine?

sorry I only glanced at them and thought they all had fleash bane. thats the only way I have seen them ran really.

3 wraith knights...3 LoW..... That book has so many good unit to take. So many ways to play but this is what I see people wanting to take all the time. Oh well. The Dark eldar list may be a had counter to that list. The one with the double Talos formation could kill it really easily if it gets in to contact with it. They wound on 2+'s.

Thanks guys for the catch. I have sent the updated list in. Some how the list cut off the second page. Sent a new PDF and A word Doc And a cut and Past Email. Hopefully one will make it though and work. Other wise You can see me List on The Tyranid Hive website if you can't wait. In both the Tactic and army sections.. SO what I was wondering about the list are who is in which section. Both of the Dark eldar ones look scary. The one with double talos formation is brutal in a couple of the mission. Very scary. Love to know which one is in the first bracket. Same with orks and SM. Can we get a break down? You know baring last min changes as to who is in which bracket for some one dropping. On alex wraith knight what are his weapon upgrades? It just says wraith knight.. I know it has some options. What's it packen? lol

A peek and the menu..I mean Ambassadors sound delioucios.. I meen informative. We will know the first round match up the day of the tournament right...? Or the night before??? (This helps with sleeplessness or not:))

They All seam too be doing that before I eat them I eat them,,,, so it is the same, is it not...?

With only 10 days left... when do we get to see our potential pray?

I am in bracket 1 but depending on how everyone is doing after that long day I may be up to playing another game. Will have to see. I have seen you at TSHT and at the Guardian Cup but never had the chance to play you yet. Well Compared to last year when I ran 5 fully kitted Raveners at 270 (45 points each) the shrikes are a steal 260. The toxin sac's are to give me a slime chance at killing / seriously hurting a Wraith Knight with Boneswords. Wounding a 6's for poison and going before it can swing give me 6 to 8 possible ID attacks that are ap3. So innless it has a invl. it is getting hurt. The rest of the unit rends. The odds aren't great but it is better then nothing. Not the greatest threat but one that may make someone not just charge in. Adrenal glands are for fleet but they also give me rerolls vs T4 when I charge. On the Tyranid Hive Forum it been talked about a lot and most people agree if you are going to run shrikes you run them fully kitted with Bio-morphs for the best result. Weapon load out vary a lot depending on who you talk to. I like guns on mine. But a lot of people run them pure CC for the extra attack. making them a assassin units. The are a very flexible unit for deployment. Vs hoard the mop up unit that the tyrants and the fex have trimmed down with shooting. They are a good counter to Drop grave unit that don't have IC. with a 2+ cover-save and wounding on 5s with 15 wounds the are pretty survivable. As for str 8 shooting I have not been seeing much of it. When I do the are going for the Fex and Tyrants more often then not.

One option is an unit of 4 to 5 shrikes with at lest 2 with Boneswords the rest with rending claws. Of course you have to have toxin sax, Adrenal glands, and assault grenade thing( Cant remember the name). The unit is expensive but has a good chance of getting the charge and doing some good damage if not just killing it out right. ID gets ride of the FNP.

They look good. After the tournament any one want to trade me they green dice. Green fits my army's nd Blue not so much. LOL Love the dice though the both look easy to read as well.

Can't wait to see how you handle this. Also I always enjoy your painting it will be cool to ee what you've done with this. Looks like my army could give you fits depending on the mission. should be fun as i have a few thing on the ground for you to pick on. Any upgrades on the maulers.?

Was a good tournament. Had lots of fun. Even had a half mirror match. Tyranids where well fead and look forward to taking my list in a few weeks the the Ambassadoral Tournament. Just fix the typo on the 3rd mission making you pick you deployment after you place you fortafacation is placed. You can't pick you deployment zone twice. LoL

Thanks to a few comments here, play testing. I have decided to go with the List below. The tournament and Mission are found here. www.40kambassadors.com/missions.php Play testing the mission have shown that you need to play attention to the mission or you can lose easy. The list should give me all the Fire Power I will need. As well as giving me options for deployment. I had list with the Tox and Haus. in it and it did well. But They didn't help in two games, really that a dakka fex couldn't do. I dislike mawloc's but having one that can go after death stars or odd objectives will be help full. So please take a comment and give me your thoughts on the list. I have already turned the list in so no changes can be made, Innless I messed up the formatting and they have me redo it. So please give comments. You to west Rider as I know you will be in the tournament and have likely turned in your list as well. Would love to know what you are bringing for DK. Just hope we get to meat on the top table again. +++ Elven Ambassador Tournament (2000pts) +++ ++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1545pts) ++ Tyrannocyte (75pts) 5x Deathspitters Tyrannocyte (75pts) 5x Deathspitters Tyrannocyte (75pts) 5x Deathspitters + HQ (460pts) + Hive Tyrant (230pts) [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings] Hive Tyrant (230pts) [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings] + Elites (95pts) + Lictor Brood (50pts) [Lictor] Venomthrope Brood (45pts) [Venomthrope] + Troops (30pts) + Mucolid Spore Cluster (15pts) [Mucolid Spore] Mucolid Spore Cluster (15pts) [Mucolid Spore] + Fast Attack (285pts) + Spore Mine Cluster (25pts) [5x Spore Mine] Tyranid Shrike Brood (260pts) Tyranid Shrike [Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Flesh Hooks, Lashwhip & Boneswords, Toxin Sacs] Tyranid Shrike [Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Flesh Hooks, Lashwhip & Boneswords, Toxin Sacs] Tyranid Shrike [Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws, Toxin Sacs] Tyranid Shrike [Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws, Toxin Sacs] Tyranid Shrike [Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws, Toxin Sacs] + Heavy Support (450pts) + Carnifex Brood (150pts) Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms] Carnifex Brood (150pts) Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms] Carnifex Brood (150pts) Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms] + Fortification (70pts) + Aegis Defense Line (70pts) [Comms Relay ++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) ( Allied Detachment) (385pts) ++ + HQ (230pts) + Hive Tyrant (230pts) [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings] + Troops (15pts) + Mucolid Spore Cluster (15pts) [Mucolid Spore] + Heavy Support (140pts) + Mawloc (140pts) Read more: http://thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/50198/elven-ambassadoral-tournament-2000-list#ixzz3mJVTQn3F

Yes it is good vs pods and tanks. Vs walkers it is ok but weapon skill 3 and I-3 hurt. It should have aone more attack to make it work. I got blinded by a nurgle walker and died last night which sucked. It just need a few tweeks to make it a good unit. I price drop wouldn't hurt either.

good huning all

paxmiles thanks for the comments. Your math is a little off but I think that is because you don't play Tyranids. Never mind I see no upgrades.( Need to sleep before answering. The impact hits are ap - so the dread will always attack back. The Fex's are the exception in the debate we are talking about. Every other TMC is str 5-6. Fexs normally are kitted out for shooting so don't have the extra attack. You also don't see them in many list anymore because they are very slow. You could drop them in like I do. Still other then Fex which as you have shown depends on who charges. TMC lose to most walkers. I hate the SW walkers with the 3+ inv. save. Yes it has less attacks but it stop most of the damage coming in. Can't wait to see how GW does the next Codex. I would love to make a 4th Ed army list. I only heard rumors about how good that book was. All the bio-morph option sounded cool. It be fun to see if they had stayed in the book if it would be better today. As was asked above. What list did you pick as a contender for the tournament? Got caught up talking about walkers vs MC that I forgot. Westrider what was your pick as well? I know asking the DK player what he thinks will give him issues.... Scary

Hears my view on walkers. The SM model has 4 base attach at st10 that swing at initiative of the walker. The are armor 12 which means I wound on 6's with all but two MC. TMC that can hurt it tend to be slower so the get hit first. Walkers also have a higher weapon skill so they are harder to hit and they hit more. TMC with crushing claws are the exception to this. Except with they are slower. they may survive but with only a wound left...maybe. Yes a walker can be killed with a lucky 6. Down side is I have to be lucky to get it. with hitting on 4 with 1 attack I will most likely do one hull point before a 4-6 wound MC is dead. Walkers are very good vs ground base TMC. A trygon prime should eat a base walker for lunch. The prime cost as much as a land raider, but falls to 120-160 walker like a leaf in the wind. Smash was already a nerf to how MC worked in 5th it halved MC attacks. Needing a 6 to explode hurt it even more in 7th. It didn't need to go to 1 attack. VS IK all my MC are a joke. Even my GMC aren't a threat in CC VS them.

Thanks for all the hard work on this.

Sorry about the spelling. I been up way to long by then. Smash is one attack only. You get a re-roll to pen. That's it. Smash had the Nerf bat taken to it big time from last edition. It made walkers really good vs Tyranid MC now. If you can charge a TMC with a walker you will win most of the time. The likely hood of killing a rhino in the charge is really low with 4 attacks and str 6 on the mawloc. As abusepuppy said the tyrants kill the tank with shooting and the mawloc hope's to hit coming in to get the guys that fall out. Heck I like to see WS -5 on the Haruspex, Tox, or the Carnifex( Really I just like ap2 on his impact hit and I would be okwith its WS-3 since he is more of a brute then others.)