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Thanks! Yes, I will be doing Mulipass Orange as the highlight for the red. I am doing Sakura (a Metallic Pink) for the purple highlights. which looks to have come out REALY nice. Now a bright thing but a good contrast to the Royal Purple metallic

The points were based off the reinforcement points system, otherwise your lone summoning character would not be sub 100pts when you can get 300pts for free. In Age of Sigmar summoning is fully built in and expected. In 40k its an interesting mechanic but it allows for some very bad set up if abused. To prevent abuse we have base rules for it. I read someone's anecdotal take on crusade and they talked a little of this. https://doll-wars.com/reflecting-on-crusades-narrative-gaming/ Here is the passage in question I am willing to compromise here and if that is adding an Requisition where you get X free summoning points we can discuss that but I want fair games and as few hard feelings as possible.

If I can get there via bus I should be fine.

You dont need to take points away from your Order of Battle. Just the points from your list. You never have a Crusade Card for summoned units so they never take up room on your Order of Battle. So, if you are playing a 500pt game and you bring 500pts you have no points to summon with. If you are playing a 500pt game and bring 400, you have 100pts to use for summoning. Part of the reason this is, is that summoning is extremely flexible. Playing against someone and you need nurglings to hold points, well you can summon those, maybe next game you need Demonettes to be annoying? You can. Now, how does this let you play a higher point game? Lets say you only have 1000pts in your Order of Battle but want to play the 1500pt Strike Force Mission as it will give you a bonus you want. Well you as a Chaos player can play with 1k and have 500pts open to summon with. I do not think that at any point a player should be able to bring in new units without paying for them. This includes Nids bringing back Gaunts as well as that also requires Reinforcement Points.

Fair enough.

If Drukhari have not taught that lesson there may be no hope for GW

To use the summoning rules you have to get permission from your opponent. When you set aside the points you dont select the unit you are setting them aside for. If you set aside enough points for 30 demonettes but never roll for that many you can always get smaller units. Ok, I will compromise. You can do summoning but its still reinforcement points. This gives you an advantage as you can play at a higher point game against people while not having enough points in your supply for that but it is fine.

Remember summoning is just 3d6 and then you pick what is being summoned. You dont need to pick then make the attempt.

Sure but what stops you from taking cheapy character you dont care about and getting 300pts of free models with no real repercussions and now your opponent is playing 1k vs your 1300? I am not saying you cant do this you just have to clear it with your opponent

Week one Missions are up!

Its a balancing mechanic. What would prevent you from summoning a Greater Demon T1 while hiding behind some Obscuring ruins so nothing can shoot you?

So summoning can quickly break the game if we are not careful as it can be totally free units or free kills. If who you are playing against is ok with you playing with Summoning (@Salty Monkey, since I sense you moving to Chaos this counts for you too) then you should use the Matched Play rules for summoning so have points set aside from your normal list. So in a 1k game you could bring 750pts and have 250pts open for summoning if your opponent is ok with it.

Careful. When you change the wargear on units it will automatically use up your Requisition Points. To avoid this you will want to delete the unit and remake it with all of its trimmings and fixings

looks like a fantastic start! I will note that it looks like you didnt add any wargear or rules to them so that might mess with you later on but we shall see.

Been working on this tonight. I still have no idea what color to paint the weapons....

Made these last night and I am REALLY happy with these... lets hope I can paint them up well.

Looks Fun!

This particular one will be open ended. I will be adding campaigns throughout this that will allow you to bring the same Order of Battle from this into those allowing you to get relics from the pariah nexus and the like so you can grow and expand the same Order of Battle, OR if you are feeling adventurous, you can start a new Order of battle for those and bring it into this and have 2. This is your narrative for your force. I suspect you figured out I spend 2 RP on expanding my Supply Limit which is 1 Requisition Point (RP) for 100 extra points to my Supply. You start with 5 RP and can spend them on things like warlord traits, relics, etc

For those who have created an account, here is my Dark Hydra Raiding Party for my Drukhar this will give you an example on how things look Week 1 Games for those who want to make up a game: Combat Patrol: Max 600pts, 1 Patrol Detachment, 1 Agenda ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Incursion: 500-1200pt, Max 2 Detachments, 2 Agendas _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Strike Force: 1100-2000pts, 3 Detachments, 3 Agenda's __________________________________________________________________ Week 2 Games: Combat Patrol: Max 600pts, 1 Patrol Detachment, 1 Agenda ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Incursion: 500-1200pt, Max 2 Detachments, 2 Agendas _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Strike Force: 1100-2000pts, 3 Detachments, 3 Agenda's

https://pastebin.com/8gpfZwSv There we go. Saddy the Wrack leader can only have a Hex Rifle or a Liquidfier but it works out.

I had the amounts wrong. I will have to readjust the list.

Let me know if you want to try Crusade @Commissar Chask

It is that time. We are playing in person again and so I want to start an Open crusade! This is not going to have a time limit, this is not going to be hyper restrictive. It is a true Open Crusade. These are your games, your narrative, your fun. I just ask that you post about the games you play in this thread! I will be using Administratum to track games and Order of Battle. It will seem like extra work but it will allow you to keep track of everything. You will need to create an account and I will have the invite link up once I finish this thread. Invite code is b88f0c638def4fa9b8eb6eda658b7bfd Here are some base rules to make this interesting and not just a smash your face in. Game rules RAW, but uses points at 1:20 ratio OOB should be registered on www.administratum.net and joined in the Ordo Open Crusade 2021 Opponent select the 2 units they think had the most impact and you select which one gets Marked for Greatness. Upgrades MUST be rolled not chosen unless they are a mission reward. To roll, use 2 dice and re-roll doubles. Select one of the two results you do not currently have. You may re-roll dice that are a duplicate upgrade, separate from this. Weapon upgrades are individual per weapon – but if multiple weapons on the model are the same (i.e lascannon on each sponson) then you may auto gain the same upgrade on the second one with the later upgrade instead of rolling it. Rules disputes should be rolled off then clarified after battle. Please post the questions here and they can be ruled on. Mission selection is from a list of 3 missions (one of each size) -players may select any of the three. I will be posting these matches every Monday as well as the point spread. Yes, there will be Combat Patrols that are up to 600-750pts or Strike Force that can be played up to 2500pts. You dont have to play at that amount but you can if your opponent wants to as well! You can request games here or in the Game night thread. If you do end up playing the same person twice, change up the mission size and points so that there is some difference in games. CP or points summoning not allowed unless both players agree to a mechanic for that game. (I have made a Compromise on this. You can use the Summoning rules but it follows Reinforcement Points rules, so you need to set aside points to use for summoning. PLEASE do not abuse this) White Dwarf relics and crusade campaign book relics (such as Beyond the Veil, Plague Purge, etc) will be locked into special events using them. You do have access to Battle Honors and Weapon Upgrades in campaign books as long as they are not Campaign locked. Examples of this are War Zone Charadon or Piety and Pain has Battle Honors locked behind the campaign so they are options for you. CATCH UP MECHANIC: If your opponent fields 6 or more Crusade Levels than you, you may allocate an extra Marked for greatness at the end. In addition. for every 6 Crusade Levels more your opponent has fielded than you, your units gain an extra xp for the battle. (i.e 0-5 difference is 1xp as normal per unit, 6-11 the underdog gets 2xp per unit, 12-17 the underdog gets 3xp per unit, etc.) This is a bit of rules but they are there to help keep things moving. The Catch up Mechanic is there to help new people who come in to play or those who cant get a game in as often. Remember you can with your opponents permission play your crusade force against those who don't want to play a Crusade game. Just get their permission and let them know you have some special things outside a normal game! Here are some extra Agenda's. These are from the Beyond the Veil book(let) Week 8 Games: Combat Patrol: Max 750pts, 1 Patrol Detachment, 1 Agenda Mission Link ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Incursion: 500-1250pt, Max 2 Detachments, 2 Agendas Mission Link _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Strike Force: 1200-2000pts, 3 Detachments, 3 Agenda's Mission Link

I shall remember this betrayal 😛 @Commissar Chask If no one is wanting to learn to play, want to play?

Got a list Idea I want to build... I am thinking of building this... its 1 Patrol of Dark Creed for the negative LD, with an upgraded Harmonculus with Helm of Spite, then 1 unit of Haemoxytes with Ossefactor, then 2 sets of 20 wracks with 2 Ossefactors each, 5 mandrakes, 4 raiders with Chainsnares and Grisly trophies. Second patrol is Dark Technomancers with another Upgraded Haemonculus (you can have 1 Master HQ per different coven/Cult/Kabal) he has the Nightmare doll so he has a 4+++ and he has the bring back d3 Wracks WLT, then I have 10 Haemoxytes with Liquidfiers, two sets of 20 wracks with 2 liquidfiers, then 5 Grotesques with Liquidfiers, 5 Mandrakes and 2 maxed Cronos. 1995 on the nose and I guess I could add a shock prow somewhere for kicks