blackvigil Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I am looking at a couple of lists, and generally tinkering. I am curious what people think. Input appreciated. List 1 Daemon PrinceWingsChaos ArmorScaled skinCharmed shieldSoul FeederMark of Khorne Sorcerer LordLvl 4Mark of SlaaneshChaos FamiliarEnchanted ShieldBarded chaos Steed Exalted heroMark of KhorneSword of antiheroesThe other tricksters shardBattle standard bearerJuggernaut of Khorne Chaos SorcererLvl2Mark of SlaaneshEnchanted shieldDispel ScrollBarded Chaos steed Core5 Marauder Horsemen Flails, musician 5.Marauder HorsemenFlails, musician 10 Marauder HorsemenFull Command, Flails Chaos Chariot Chaos Chariot 5 chaos Warhounds 5 chaos Warhounds Special10 Chaos KnightsFull Command Rare5 Skull CrushersFull Command List 2 2795 Warriors of Chaos: The Cleansing Fire of Rage Chaos Lord 210 (550) Hellfire sword 65 Dawn stone 25 Dragon helm 10 Shield 5 Mark of Khorne 10 Burning body 10 Flaming breath 30 Mounted on Manticore 150 Iron hard skin 25 Exalted Hero 110 (253) Battle standard bearer 25 Juggernaut 55 Sword of Antiheroes 35 The other tricksters shard 15 Shield 3 Mark of khorne 10 Chaos Sorceror 110 (191) Level 2 upgrade 35 Barded chaos steed 16 Lore of fire Charmed shield 5 Dispel scroll 25 Chaos sorcerer 110 (201) Level 2 upgrade 35 Barded chaos steed 16 Lore of fire Enchanted shield 5 Staff of sorcery 35 10 Marauder Horsemen 140 (220) Flail 20, light armor 10, Mark of Khorne 20, Horsemaster 10, Musician 10, Standard 10 10 Marauder Horsemen 140 (220) Flail 20, light armor 10, Mark of Khorne 20, Horsemaster 10, Musician 10, Standard 10 5 war hounds 30 (35) Vangaurd 5 5 war hounds 30 (35) Vanguard 5 Chariot 110 Chariot 110 10 Chaos Knights 360 (460) Doom Knight 10, Musician 10, Standard 10, Ensorcerelled weapons 30 5 Skullcrushers 225 (420) Skullhunter 10, Musician 10, Standard 10, ensorcerelled weapons 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Well list 2 has a cool name and theme.........what else do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroZero Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I like list 2 for theme and power level. I think both could use revisions in gear/marks/units. List 2 is going to be a beast to control with that much frenzy and forced over run. I'd love to see a Pure-magic less khorne list compete and do well. Overall I think BV was looking for thoughts and input on if its OFCC worthy ( not OTT ) its his first fantasy event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackvigil Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I am mostly trying to figure out what is "too much". I like the Demon Prince and the Sorcerer Lord, but I am not sure if that will get people's knickers in a knot. I am trying to learn the landscape, and the meta between now and then, so i figured I would see if there are any elements of these lists that would be considered lame to face off against. I could have made this post, and said "what combination of elements in the WoC codex are not fun to play against?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarlordGhrom Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I vote list 2 for OFCC. Either way I don't like how little troops you have. Most armies will have a single unit that has more models than all your troop type models combined... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 For list 2: IMO, you should break the unit of 5 skull crushers into 2 units of 3. The champion and standard upgrade aren't really needed, and you lose out with attacks from the second rank. Those units should be hitting a unit to either soften them up and hold them in place or force flees. Or, you could go 2 units of crushers; one at a unit size of three (for your BSB to join) and another and a unit size of 4. I would also consider dropping the champion from the horsemen. He could get into some unwanted challenges and end up giving your opponent more CR than needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 champions can refuse challenges without a penalty. having them is only ever, IMO, a good thing as it provides you options you wouldn't have otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroZero Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I would like to see something like Chaos Lord MoK Juggernaut Sword of Anti Heroes The Other Trickster Shard Talisman of Preservation Chaos Sorceror Lord Level 4 Lore of Death Charmed Shield Sword of Might Dispel Scroll Exalted Hero Battle Standard Bearer Juggernaut Helm of Many eyes Halberd Chaos Sorcerer Mark of Slaanesh Lvl 2 Chaos Familiar Enchanted Shield 5 marauder horsemen,.flails, musician 5 marauder horsemen, flails musician 10 marauder horsemen, flails, musician, standard bearer 5 chaos hounds 5 chaos hounds Chaos chariot Chaos chariot 10 Chaos knights Full command 3 Juggernaut Full Command 3 Juggernaut Full Command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackvigil Posted January 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I like the idea of 2 smaller squads of Juggernauts with characters. I am assuming you would put those sorcerers on mounts, and put them in the Knight squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroZero Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yeah I left the barded steeds off because I am a "special person" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 champions can refuse challenges without a penalty. having them is only ever, IMO, a good thing as it provides you options you wouldn't have otherwise. If mauraders follow the same rules as chaos warrior champions, they can't refuse a challenge and must always issue one (at least that's how I remember them). Am I incorrect with mauraders? I don't see them much on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 ahhh an army specific rule that I'm unaware of makes sense. you are likely correct art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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