InfestedKerrigan Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Comes with a few bitz, helmets, shoulder pads, AND Intercessor Power Fists. Initial availability appears to be big box only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Pics are around, having issues getting them over on my phone while working 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Does anyone know the contents of the Imperial Fists Christmas Box? Approximate point value? (I had been promising myself that I’d use my holiday bonus for my Ironjawz... But I’ve really enjoyed painting my Primaris Imperial Fists for Kill Team...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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InfestedKerrigan Posted November 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ish said: Does anyone know the contents of the Imperial Fists Christmas Box? Approximate point value? (I had been promising myself that I’d use my holiday bonus for my Ironjawz... But I’ve really enjoyed painting my Primaris Imperial Fists for Kill Team...) 10 intercessors, 5 plas, 3 aggressors, 1 lt, 1 Redemptor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 So about 700-800 Points, five or take... Or around about 1,000 when I account for the models I bought for Kill Team. GAHHH! So tempting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StygianArcanum Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Well the upgrade kit at least gives me hope that there may someday be a degree of customization available to Primaris models. The power fist, for example, doesn't have rules on Primaris at the moment, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, StygianArcanum said: Well the upgrade kit at least gives me hope that there may someday be a degree of customization available to Primaris models. The power fist, for example, doesn't have rules on Primaris at the moment, right? Not yet, although there’s rumors of a new Space Marines codex in 2019... But, then again, there are always rumors of a new Space Marines codex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Imperial Fist Battleforce details (the one with PF) Tags : imperial fist warhammer 40 000 Hello there !! Chapter Master Valrak released a video with the details of the IF box. (that seem obvious as he is a IF big fan^^) https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=pMHoej85rjk /Cheers. Bob. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Two of those IF sets, plus the stuff I bought for Kill Team gives me a 2,000 Point army. For $340 bucks. I had promised myself I was going to spend my Christmanukkah gelt on Age of Sigmar, but... Damn. This is just too tempting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Okay, just threw this together really fast using BattleScribe. It’s probably not a world-breaking tournament conqueror, but it seems like a solid enough force. Decent amount of CP, two or more units that can handle most roles (e.g., anti-armor, anti-horde, anti-air) so I’ve got some redundancies. Main strategic plan would be to form a solid wall of yellow, bolt rifles blazing, in a classic gun line. IF Chapter Trait means the enemy can’t hide in cover, two (three of Combat Squad’d) squads of Reivers running around their backfield will make hiding behind LOS-blocking buildings difficult... • Null Zone + Hellblasters + Captain + Lieutenant will slag just about anything. • Generally, Aggressors are probably equally good with bolter gauntlets or flamers... But I think the IF trait makes bolters the better choice. You’re already ignoring cover, might as well get the extra range. • Wish I could squeeze in a Primaris Ancient... ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [66 PL, 1220pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Imperial Fists + HQ + Primaris Captain w/Power Fist [6 PL, 106pts]: Architect of War, Plasma pistol, Power fist, The Armour Indomitus, Warlord Primaris Librarian [7 PL, 101pts]: 6) Null Zone, Force sword + Troops + Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 182pts]: 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 9x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 182pts]: 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle, 9x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]: 4x Intercessor, Intercessor Sergeant, Stalker Bolt Rifle + Elites + Aggressor Squad [12 PL, 185pts]: 4x Aggressor, Aggressor Sergeant, Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets/Fragstorm Grenade Launcher + Heavy Support + Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 182pts]: Heavy Plasma Incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Plasma pistol Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 182pts]: Heavy Plasma Incinerator . 4x Hellblaster . Hellblaster Sergeant: Plasma pistol ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [40 PL, 780pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Imperial Fists + HQ + Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 75pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle + Elites + Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 202pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, Heavy flamer, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 203pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy flamer, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod Reiver Squad [5 PL, 100pts]: Bolt Carbine, Grav Chutes . 4x Reiver . Reiver Sergeant: Bolt Carbine, Combat knife Reiver Squad [10 PL, 200pts]: Combat knife, Grapnel Launcher . 9x Reiver . Reiver Sergeant: Combat knife, Heavy Bolt Pistol ++ Total: [106 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with [url=https://battlescribe.net]BattleScribe[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Boltstorm Aggressors are generally better. Flamestorm Aggressors are awesome if they can get in range, but being slow, very short-ranged, and only having one, expensive, Transport option doesn't make for a good combo. Imperial Fists make the Boltstorm even better, so they're almost certainly the way you want to go here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Dakka ad infinitius, uber alles, ad nauseam. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Well, here they are: the Imperial Fists upgrade sprue and decal sheet from the Imperial Fists Supremacy Force battleforce. Pretty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 8:57 PM, WestRider said: Boltstorm Aggressors are generally better. Flamestorm Aggressors are awesome if they can get in range, but being slow, very short-ranged, and only having one, expensive, Transport option doesn't make for a good combo. Imperial Fists make the Boltstorm even better, so they're almost certainly the way you want to go here. Flame ones are super nice with salamander stragem with +1 to wound of meltas and flamers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 I think the Flamestorm Aggressors actually look a lot better than the Boltstorm ones, reminding me a lot of the Firebats from StarCraft. I'll probaby add a unit of them eventually, but I'm going to go with Boltstorms for the first units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, happycamper said: Flame ones are super nice with salamander stragem with +1 to wound of meltas and flamers Even without the Salamanders bonus, the flamer ones are awesome when they actually get to shoot. I've lucked into a couple of those super-close Deployment styles with the Open War cards when using them, and getting to Deploy them right on the front line, they absolutely wrecked stuff. The problem is that they're slow, not particularly durable, and extremely short-ranged, so it takes a lot of work and luck for them to actually survive long enough to fire in most situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 It's really weird that Aggressors don't have a teleportation deep strike option, a la Terminators. I read someone, somewhere, speculating that perhaps the Aggressors (slowish, tanky infantry) and the Inceptors (speedy, bouncy jumptroops) were perhaps originally designed with the other squads' weapons but these were swapped at some point during development. This makes a lot more sense to me than more "fan theories," honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Ish said: It's really weird that Aggressors don't have a teleportation deep strike option, a la Terminators. I read someone, somewhere, speculating that perhaps the Aggressors (slowish, tanky infantry) and the Inceptors (speedy, bouncy jumptroops) were perhaps originally designed with the other squads' weapons but these were swapped at some point during development. This makes a lot more sense to me than more "fan theories," honestly. Even when they do have an option like that (DeathWatch, Raven Guard before the last Big FAQ), that still drops them at 9" away with 8" range weapons. So they still have to sit there and get shot for a Turn that they can't really afford before they get to open up. It's a really strong option for the Boltstorm ones, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, WestRider said: Even when they do have an option like that (DeathWatch, Raven Guard before the last Big FAQ), that still drops them at 9" away with 8" range weapons. So they still have to sit there and get shot for a Turn that they can't really afford before they get to open up. It's a really strong option for the Boltstorm ones, tho. Though in both cases, if they were in range, they'd not be able to double tap because deep striking counts as moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, paxmiles said: Though in both cases, if they were in range, they'd not be able to double tap because deep striking counts as moving. Yeah, actually getting to use their double tap ability is pretty rare. But the Boltstorm version will at least get to fire once. The Flamestorm guys will probably never get to pull the trigger at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 10, 2018 Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 Hence why I’m inclined to believe that the Aggressors were meant to have Assault Bolters and Plasma Exterminators, but the Inceptors were supposed to have the Boltstorms and Flamestorms... I mean, a perpetual failing people keeping mentioning of the Inceptors is that their an “Assault” unit that doesn’t have any kind of mêlée weapon... a pair of powerfists and flamers would fit that role very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just noticed a major problem with the power fists included on the Imperial Fists upgrade sprue in the new Primaris Battleforce... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ish said: Just noticed a major problem with the power fists included on the Imperial Fists upgrade sprue in the new Primaris Battleforce... The Left handed power fist with a right handed fist logo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 It’s not the handedness of the power fist that is the problem: it’s the handedness of the Chapter Badge. The Chapter Badge of the Imperial Fists (as well as the Crimson Fists, Hammers of Dorn, and other successor chapters) is supposed to be a left-hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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