white_devil Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/05/2015-itc-mid-season-update-poll/ The poll is much better worded this time. Vote now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne_Cobbb Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Nerf everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 what if the Eldar are the new normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_devil Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Nerf everything! Being an attendee of national tournaments for several years I used to be of the camp that nothing should be changed and comp in all forms was bogus. However, after GW started to write shoddier and shoddier rules with the excuse that they don't do tournaments anymore and people should simply figure it out themselves, I changed my mind. Its only logical that if a system is not designed to be used for tournaments, then it must be modified in some way to be used as such. Its a happy side effect that this also provides a baseline of standardization for friendly games also. Start here, and modify as you see fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_devil Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 what if the Eldar are the new normal? Well, skitarii and khorne daemonkin certainly are not even close to on the same level as eldar. Even if D is the new normal I stand by my above statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 However, after GW started to write shoddier and shoddier rules with the excuse that they don't do tournaments anymore and people should simply figure it out themselves, I changed my mind. Its only logical that if a system is not designed to be used for tournaments, then it must be modified in some way to be used as such. Its a happy side effect that this also provides a baseline of standardization for friendly games also. Start here, and modify as you see fit. which is why i am divesting from GW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I voted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggies01 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Guys, what happened. Is Eldar really that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_devil Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 which is why i am divesting from GW If another game (not called magic the gathering) had as big of a local/tournament scene and I had a bunch of buddies going to the national events to get drunk *cough cough* I mean PLAY it... Then I'd drop 40k too. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_devil Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Guys, what happened. Is Eldar really that bad? In short, yes. Ranged D everywhere, a 100pt undercosted gargantuan WraithKnight, scatterlasers on every bike (270pts for an objective secured, 40 str6 shot, 48in moving platform). Sad part is, fix those and its a great (albiet very powerful) codex. Aspect warriors are all usable for example (holy crap are warpspiders good). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggies01 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Man that is dark. How can someone feel good for winning a game with D weapons shooting wise. Better question is how in the hell can GW think this was a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne_Cobbb Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 what if the Eldar are the new normal? Well, then Blood Angels are [big bad swear word]ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Well, then Blood Angels are [big bad swear word]ed. I imagine they will get a new codex shortly, not unlike the new Space Marine codex on it's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_devil Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 A well-worded explination on why Reece and the Frontline guys do what they do: https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/06/30069/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradNardone Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Dont know what ITC is but voted based on what i feel in general for any tourniment play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Independent Tournament Circuit, I believe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 A well-worded explination on why Reece and the Frontline guys do what they do: https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/06/30069/ This is why I absolutely love Reecius, he's an amazing community leader, says it like it is without being an ass. Has great perspective and is THE community advocate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 *shrug* I've seen enough editions of enough games come and go that there's nothing new under the sun. 40k is turning into mini-apocalypse, and I expect this to continue. It makes competitive play more of a stupid idea than it was before, but don't be a dick and most folks will still be fun. Play against the armies you're worried about to see what it's actually like, don't sell your armies until you give things a bit more time, and don't be a dick. That's what I'll do, at least. Also, I'll keep working on my Eldar army. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggies01 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Share Posted May 7, 2015 Agree with every point Jim besides not being a Dick. How?!.....I mean what???.......Oh forget it, it's a myth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradNardone Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 seems like they are moving to a more kill each other faster type of game which will in turn allow people to up the points in a 3 hr game, which will sell more models. Yes right now the Eldar book is a little broken but I have a feeling a lot of the codecies to follow will be more on par. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huggies01 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Nah Probably not. Blood Angels, Nids, Dark Angels and arguably Dark Eldar got pretty screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_devil Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Well, results are in: https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/08/itc-2015-mid-season-update-poll-results-are-in/ JetBikes stay as-is by the slimmest of margins. I'm going to agree with Reece here and speculate it's because people just aren't getting it, as they haven't played it yet. It will probably go the way of invisibility (first poll kept it, second poll nerfed it by a huge margin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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