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  1. All I can say is YES! and use contrast paints for the yellow. They will be up and running in no time.
  2. I'm not sure GW even knows what's in those boxes it's been so long 😇
  3. They already have their own detachment rules ... To fit with the spit balling I'd say assign actual force orgs to them and say that Lords of war occupy three slots each... This would solve other Lord of wars as well. You want a Lord of war HQ? You are spending CP, other slots you are just fine.
  4. When a more casual player agrees to ITC it is a different social contract... Gamers have never been good at clearly communicating with one another. Infested was totally right with the Goodwin principal thing. Edit: I think I'm actually gonna walk away now, feeling satisfied that if others read through this they will have a better understanding of ITC than what was spouted in ignorance.
  5. Which is why I'm trying to educate you so you can turn back the tide in your area my man. ITC is only a circuit the Frontline gaming guys added a few "house rules" and put together a generic tournament pack. Gamers are lazy and started referring to it as ITC. ITC is only a tournament circuit, report to them and get your players points, bigger turn out better points for the leader board. As a tournament organizer you can actually run whatever crazy style event you want as long as there is a ranking to the final standings submit it for points. That is actually ITC. Their house rules apply at their event and they made them available freely to others to use. It then took off cuz competition loves consistency. Once there was heavy consistency in tournaments, the general player pack started to see use in practice games, which lead to pickup games, which lead to this, in the Portland area anyway, casual gaming use of tournament rules. I love seeing casual gamers avoid using ITC norms as it allows those more competitive players know that it is either a game to dial back and just have fun or to find someone to actually sharpen their skills with. Those that abuse ITC norms would just abuse the book rules too but funny thing about the book rules is that they are harder to abuse due to the sheer variance of missions and scoring... Avoid getting tabled and it is really anybody's game.
  6. False! ITC is literally tourney, it stands for Independent Tournament Circuit. It is players wanting to practice so much that has bought it to the weekly what have you games. ITC should never be casual play, saying it is would be like playing Ard Boyz casually. Could it happen yes? Did it in those bygone days? Nope. This is down to the contract between players and that some players want to play ITC and some don't. Edit: and a third group not caring/just wanting a game. The ITC guys just ask more often and then it follows that ITC is played more often.
  7. Winning at all cost is just a level above fair play to me. The final cost of the win for some being that fair play. If you will play fair to the extent that it will lose you the game then by definition you will not play to win at all cost. Fair play being too much of a cost. Can you still be cut throat? Absolutely. A jerk to play with? Sure. But if you play a hardcore style to the rules then you aren't WAAC, will others try to disparage you by using WAAC to describe you? Sure but you ain't WAAC if you will take the loss graciously through fair, no matter how cut throat, play. Writing a killer list while not very sporting (depending on community), isn't necessarily WAAC. Shrugs I just know I played pretty competitively once upon a time ( don't anymore) and didn't like being lumped in with cheaters as WAAC cuz it is different. ITC should never equal WAAC are there WAAC there? Yes but there is WAAC everywhere!
  8. Well I'll have the full mercenary keyword and outcast versatile models with me and due to contrast paints they should be three color minimum! Already got Barbaros (alt), just ordered big Jake and prospectors that shipped earlier this week... Could build a third Ronin... I'm gonna take some time this weekend to plan some possible list v the schemes this weekend while organizing this stuff into my bag. Edit: one of these days I'm gonna have the crossroads seven ready to rock...
  9. Depends on painting time and comfort level. Prolly just soloing Bishop which means Vickies, I have Parker but not painted and not that familiar so back to what I know. Only gotten a couple of games in but Ronin work with my style and I'll figure out those schemes... Maybe...
  10. WAAC is so much older than ITC. I know there are a number of self described ITC players here that enjoy the leader board but are not WAAC. Please respect them by realizing there are differences and not saying all ITC are WAAC. it is inflammatory and you have been advised of this. Pax your book has been noted as being different and you have in the past asked how you can avoid certain confrontations. This is one of those you should take note of and consider when dealing with others. Your hold on this ITC equals WAAC is starting to even offend me. That example is not a typical ITC player he was a typical WAAC who was using the ITC construct. Does ITC draw those WAAC players? Sure so does war machine.
  11. @Fixxer what is the estimated end time? I got a friend coming into SeaTac late (super late) Saturday and seeing if I can hook them up with a ride home.
  12. Biggest thing is to realize that while you consider them WAAC it is a slur so make sure you intend to enflame the other party when you use it. Regardless of the meaning it holds for you it is a pretty stiff derogatory term in our circle (gaming in general) and it's use should be carefully considered.
  13. A focus on winning and competition is not WAAC. WAAC is a pretty strong word with cheating and bad sportsmanship included. I hate seeing ITC and WAAC being considered so similar... ITC actively tried to eliminate WAAC as well but they are definitely focused on the win. I dislike ITC due to the focus on winning and points with missions that are just a little to intense for me. 40k rules do not support that level of competition to me. Can they? Yes ITC proves that is it in a way I want to put my effort into? No. ITC practice is definitely a focus on playing a certain way and one I avoid. But in the end do not discredit the number of ITC players that are as wonderful if not more so than those "narrative" players out there. Do not label someone WAAC based on their preferred gaming style label them based on their behavior with in that construct.
  14. @Fixxer wife and work approved the time off!
  15. I'm good, no allergies! Now to get clearance and submit for some time off. I'll let the wife decide when I head back. It is only 4 ish hours off peak times.
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