derek Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 So list review request tips and what you would do different. The list will have an alteration in the form of drop pods Kasorro khan 3 tactical squads all in razorbacks and with flamers Dreadnaught multi melta heavy flamer drop pod Attack bike multi melta Devestator squad with rockets Chaplain 3 tac squads in razorbacks with melta guns Attack bike multi melta Dev centurions with grav 10th company task force 3 squads of 3 scout bikes Oath sworn detachment Knight acheron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Khan is on foot because i dont have a model on a bike for him. And most likely will be changed to a chapter master on foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Khan is vastly better than a Chapter Master; Scout is invaluable. Regular Scouts over Scout Bikes is probably a better call, if you have the models available- they can Go to Ground, have more bodies, etc. If you're running Battle Company you typically want to be maximizing the number of transports you bring. That means running Assault Squads over Attack Bikes and Devastators over Centurion Devs, unless you have a good reason not to. Devs in a Rhino with Grav Cannons are an excellent choice for their slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Lack of models available is the general reason for the centurions and getting the 15 grav shots has never let me down with enough hot dice you can wreck alot of things. And since i plan to move to drop pods khan has no real benefit to those. And scout bikes are a smaller foot print that with locator beacons can put me right in the enemies deployment zone without scatter. Being a point cheaper and having a slightly higher toughness doesnt hurt either. So with these things in mind what else could change to help be beneficial to the army. Is the acheron the best knight choice or is there a better one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Also scout bikes are pretty much my drop pod delivery system. I know they will suffer a horrible counter attack once the pods are delivered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 You only have one Drop Pod, you don't need Beacons for it. Also, Drop Pods in general are accurate enough not to need assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Also remember the Battle Co Captain can't be upgraded to a Chapter Master per the ITC faq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Why not? Its an upgrade just like the heavy destroyer is to the destroyer squads in the destroyer cult. And yes atm i only have 1 pod but im switching over to 5 more pods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Can you show me the faq quoting that i cant make a chapter master from the captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I found it but is there any discussion as to why that is a thing because that just sounds dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Why not? Its an upgrade just like the heavy destroyer is to the destroyer squads in the destroyer cult. And yes atm i only have 1 pod but im switching over to 5 more pods Because unfortunately Reece really likes making up arbitrary rulings to suit what he thinks the rules "should" be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 That just seems like writing the rules to benefit one and not the other. I mean you allow it for one why not the other the chapter master doesnt really make the list that much different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Because fluff-wise, Companies are led by Captains, not Chapter Masters, I guess? I think that's about as good as you're gonna get, as far as an explanation on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galahad911 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 It's amazing to me that a player getting hundreds of extra points in free transports is actually complaining about having a restriction placed on a list that is, by it's very nature, well beyond the point level of a given game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 It's amazing to me that a player getting hundreds of extra points in free transports is actually complaining about having a restriction placed on a list that is, by it's very nature, well beyond the point level of a given game. It's not that the restriction is particularly limiting- "smart" Battle Company players are gonna take Khan anyways, so it's essentially meaningless- but rather it's indicative of a pattern of decisions that Reece in particular seems to make based on what he thinks the rules should say rather than what they actually do say. Changing the rules to limit a game-breaking effect (2+ rerollable saves, Invisibility, Unbound lists, etc) is acceptable because it has a good rationale. Changing the rules because you can and you think that it "doesn't make sense" is not. We play a game about Aryan supermen who fly on spaceships the size of islands so they can climb into a cannon that shoots them into the dirt where they punch fungus in the face with chainsaws. Nothing makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Im not complaining it just confused me since we can inherently take an upgrade to a squad and be legal for the formation and then you can potentially have a chapter master on a bike with a relentless orbital bombardment and its like nope. And the war convocation gets the free stuff treatment just not free transports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 And i like ultra marines tactics as well especially with drop pods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Because unfortunately Reece really likes making up arbitrary rulings to suit what he thinks the rules "should" be. Bitter man is bitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 We play a game about Aryan supermen who fly on spaceships the size of islands so they can climb into a cannon that shoots them into the dirt where they punch fungus in the face with chainsaws. Nothing makes sense. This is now my quote in my signature block. Internet gold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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