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Seems...insufficient against certain armies, but I'm a n00b again.

3 color minimum is holding me back, stupid numb hand. Otherwise I'd be in.

How do you deal with tough vehicles?

Agreed, huge time saver.

This is my big issue as well, 186 models is super rough. Last GT I went to was 2017 TSHFT and only had one game reach a natural conclusion. 2 ended on turn 2. In every non Eldar game had the game continued, it would have benefitted me.

BS 4 and order to re-roll 1s is tasty.

Grot shield.

100% agree.

I'm really excited because I wanted to make an imp soup list based on my fluff that would have IG/Ravenguard/Ad Mech and an Assassin. Couldn't do it because of limit of 3. Now I can.

Love the Tank Commanders!

I love the psyker.

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I'm rooting for you and all orks!

I always thought a special bolter+eviscerator-lite as their main weapon would be cool. Like 18" S4 Assault 2 S = user+2 AP-1

List restrictions based on model availability makes sense to me.

Why 5 stormboyz instead of another deffkopta?

As a viable competitive build this is something new to 8th edition.

Easier to make mistakes with hordes, I suspect Orks will be a gate-keeper type army. Something all lists have to prepare for, but lack a certain something to be consistent champs.

I tried it one game and its kinda tough to manage. Could be great though.

Who wants the Chaos part of that box? Its Ravenguard time!

Holy [big bad swear word], I can't wait to get Raven Guard of these guys!

Its a reason to run them near the warboss too. Just in case there are snipers about.

As long as grots are closer than shooter, you're not gonna get him...

I still would like to see someone try out Goffs with Skar Boyz. I suspect it would work well. Wounding T8 on 5s would help against tough stuff a lot and wounding almost all infantry on 3s id huge.

That's what I use. Incredibly powerful character for the pts. I just like the long range opportunities of the KFF warboss with a +1 to wound. Means wounding on 4s almost always and even 2s against tough stuff. I can 't grok the math with so many re-rolls and such, but it seems like that would be a credible threat against tough targets every turn. I could see adding a deffskullz detachment with this guy and a KFF big mek, 3 grot units, and some lootas. Then I'd do my usual Blood Axe force, but use da finkin kap to get Brutal But Kunnin on my warboss.