blackvigil

In my experience, rerolls Clown high stats. It's kind of sad...

Imperial guard. The vehicles have their paint status listed next to them. All of it is decently done, but light enough you could just prime over it without stripping. Infantry is either un painted or done in desert style camo. Looks cool if you are into that style. Mostly Cadians, but some misc other guys sprinkled in. I want to sell it all as a bundle, $900 obo. (retail prices are noted in the list, for reference.) I am in Vancouver, but Portland is not a problem. email me for fastest response: blackvigil@gmail.com Forgeworld Vulture (~$80) assembled, no paint Forgeworld Vanquisher Turret ($20) Forgeworld Imperial Bombard (~$80) Foregeworld vanaheim pattern griffon (~$50) Valkerie/Vendetta ($66) assembled, primed grey Valkerie/Vendetta ($66) assembled, primed grey Leman Russ Tank x4 ($200) airbrushed tan Leman Russ Tank ($50) partially assembled, no paint Basilisk ($50) black paint Hydra w/ forgeworld turret ($56) Medusa ($50) tan airbrush Hellhound ($50) tan airbrush Chimera x5 ($170) tan airbrush Heavy Weapon Teams x8 (~$100) Colour Sergeant Kell ($21) Regimental Advisors ($17) Primaris Psyker ($15) Straken ($15) Creed ($19) Cadian Command Squad x2 ($50) Inquisitor w/ Inferno and Sword ($16) Talarn character /w 4 Talarn troopers (~$20) Infantry w/ misc Special Weapons x26 (~$150) Infantry w/ lasguns x54 (~$150) Tons of vehicle sprues with extra bits/parts. Lots of infantry bits, weapons, and parts.

Good discussion here... I am glad there are lots of opinions on the matter. I did vote with my money, and with my feet. I am working on my fantasy army, and I plan to play in the Fantasy OFCC, and not 40k. This will be the first year in quite a few that i won't be playing in the 40k, and my first ever Fantasy. (to be truthful, if they weren't scheduled opposite, I would likely play in both, just to have fun with my new guard army)

I actually love new rules sets. I like rules almost as much as I like playing. I just don't like whats going on right now. It seems like they have done it too fast, and have been pretty blatant about trying to make fast money at the long term expense of the game.

Or has stronghold assault, escalation, dataslates, digital only releases, and imperial knights killed anyone else's interest in 40k? It's just too convoluted to pay attention anymore. I own 40k models, but I don't plan to play in any organized situations anytime soon. Hopefully all of this big model BS will get toned down by another edition. I will pick it up then I guess.

Yeah, it seems like the 15mm is too small, and the 28mm is too large... Hmmm. What do you guys think? Is there a way to make this work?

Jaegers from Pacific Rim...

Dreamforge Leviathans will get some play...

I am interested in the 8th ed WHFB mini rulebook. (I tried to sent a PM, but the site said that you cannot receive any more.) Would you take $20 for it? If you could mail it to me, I can paypal you $25, which should cover postage. (I work in Longview, so getting to Pdx is kind of tough for me) David

I like the idea of 2 smaller squads of Juggernauts with characters. I am assuming you would put those sorcerers on mounts, and put them in the Knight squad?

I am mostly trying to figure out what is "too much". I like the Demon Prince and the Sorcerer Lord, but I am not sure if that will get people's knickers in a knot. I am trying to learn the landscape, and the meta between now and then, so i figured I would see if there are any elements of these lists that would be considered lame to face off against. I could have made this post, and said "what combination of elements in the WoC codex are not fun to play against?"

I am looking at a couple of lists, and generally tinkering. I am curious what people think. Input appreciated. List 1 Daemon Prince Wings Chaos Armor Scaled skin Charmed shield Soul Feeder Mark of Khorne Sorcerer Lord Lvl 4 Mark of Slaanesh Chaos Familiar Enchanted Shield Barded chaos Steed Exalted hero Mark of Khorne Sword of antiheroes The other tricksters shard Battle standard bearer Juggernaut of Khorne Chaos Sorcerer Lvl2 Mark of Slaanesh Enchanted shield Dispel Scroll Barded Chaos steed Core 5 Marauder Horsemen Flails, musician 5.Marauder Horsemen Flails, musician 10 Marauder Horsemen Full Command, Flails Chaos Chariot Chaos Chariot 5 chaos Warhounds 5 chaos Warhounds Special 10 Chaos Knights Full Command Rare 5 Skull Crushers Full Command List 2 2795 Warriors of Chaos: The Cleansing Fire of Rage Chaos Lord 210 (550) Hellfire sword 65 Dawn stone 25 Dragon helm 10 Shield 5 Mark of Khorne 10 Burning body 10 Flaming breath 30 Mounted on Manticore 150 Iron hard skin 25 Exalted Hero 110 (253) Battle standard bearer 25 Juggernaut 55 Sword of Antiheroes 35 The other tricksters shard 15 Shield 3 Mark of khorne 10 Chaos Sorceror 110 (191) Level 2 upgrade 35 Barded chaos steed 16 Lore of fire Charmed shield 5 Dispel scroll 25 Chaos sorcerer 110 (201) Level 2 upgrade 35 Barded chaos steed 16 Lore of fire Enchanted shield 5 Staff of sorcery 35 10 Marauder Horsemen 140 (220) Flail 20, light armor 10, Mark of Khorne 20, Horsemaster 10, Musician 10, Standard 10 10 Marauder Horsemen 140 (220) Flail 20, light armor 10, Mark of Khorne 20, Horsemaster 10, Musician 10, Standard 10 5 war hounds 30 (35) Vangaurd 5 5 war hounds 30 (35) Vanguard 5 Chariot 110 Chariot 110 10 Chaos Knights 360 (460) Doom Knight 10, Musician 10, Standard 10, Ensorcerelled weapons 30 5 Skullcrushers 225 (420) Skullhunter 10, Musician 10, Standard 10, ensorcerelled weapons 15

Being a member of Team Grimdark, I am working on my models, and trying to learn this crazy square base game. My WoC never disappoint. I am going to experiment with a little more magic, and a little less khornezerking agro style. My paint scheme is iron and brass armor, with a bit more realism in mounts, so I am not uber beholden to a particular god/mark. (exception being the crushers...)

I will certainly back this KS. I want a couple of those models, for sure. Likelihood of having them by OFCC... likely zero. :)

I need a Warhammer Fantasy mini rules book. I would like to pay $20 for it, and meet up at Dice Age. I would also offer a swap of a new box of Dark Elf Corsairs for the book. If all else fails, and we can't cross paths, I can pay via paypal, if you can mail it to me. Thanks

If 40k OFCC is an open, free for all, I will be slightly unhappy. 40k is NOT the same game it was last summer. The rules creep is insane. I would like to see some hard decisions made. The head of gaming needs to draw the line, and keep things reasonable. Nobody wants to face a Revanant... let's be real.

I love allies, but don't like Escalation, Stronghold Assault, or Forgeworld. Basically, I like the big book, and the codexes. I am sure I am in the minority.

I would highly consider playing Fantasy, because I am already torn... That said, I am itching to play my Guard, and they will likely have a new dex. I would like to see them left in, but lists should be restricted more than last year. I was tired of seeing riptides and helldrakes (plural), paired with other rock hard things from other lists.