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Sold! So I tried selling this a couple times but ran into hick-ups. But I decided to cut the price a lot. Core Book Magic cards that include all the normal magic, Dark Elf magic and Death magic. One fully painted Black Dragon painted by Jay. Very very nice! Also Painted Sorceress by Jay. Still needs basing though. Dreadlord on Pegasus- Primed Pegasus bare rider Kharkbdyss- bare 35 Black Guard newer models- primed 20 Black Ark Corsiars- primed 30 Darkshards newer models- primed 10 Cold One Knights- bare 3 Five Man Units of Dark Riders newer models- bare 1 unit of Doomfire Warlocks New in box unit of Dark Riders/Doomfire Warlocks 2 Reaper Bolt Thrower- primed 10 shades made from wood elves and dark elves- primed 2 new in box newer Cold One Chariots 40 Dreadspears older models- bare 30 Darkshards old models- bare Random assortments of Darklords and Sorceresses Then there is a 15 old Dark Riders, two damaged old hydras, and 15 harpies from different sources. And more bits than you will ever need. Asking $250 and of course you can look before the final sale. I am also selling a Battlefoam Hordes Army bag with foam loadout for $50, new in box Relic Knights Shattered Sword box for $30, Triumphant and Treachery for $25 and Newtrunner starter box with with 4 boasters and card sleeves for $40.

Also I am responding to people and there are a number of messages going out. Please respond some what soon or I will have to go with the next person.

I will get back to everyone real soon. I have my son and juggling at the moment.

So I have several GW armies I am going to be selling and wanted to check the interest here first. I still have a bit of Space Marines left but mostly infantry. I also have a good size Empire, O&G and Dark Elf armies. Will be open to making great deals. If anyone wants I can get pictures and a price range but want to avoid eBay so expect good deals.

Thank you WestRider. So after this weekend everything goes to eBay.

Thank you.

Grind Board Game: $25 Descent Journey into the Dark core box, the Trollfens, Lair of the Wyrm and the goblin hero booster: $75 Pathfinder Starter Box, with Black Dragon picture on the front: $25

If you want to save me the time I will let lots go for special prices. The bigger the Lot the better the deal. (Lots over $100) The bigger the lot the better the deal! I can not stress this enough. Proceeds will goto "My Son's Birthday Gift" fund. It really is a good cause.

10 Unglued Dark Angel Vets with BITS! out the butt: $40 4 Unglued Termies with Bits: $35 1 Terminator Banner Carrier with Storm Shield & Hammer: $7 Dark Vengeance Chaplain, primed black: $10 12 Randomly Armed Termies: $45 32 Primed Dark Green Tactical Marines, a quarter of them have DA themed look: $70 4 Rocket Launchers, 3 Plasma Cannons, 2 Heavy Lasers, 2 Heavy Bolters, 1 Heavy Melta, 2 Meltas, 2 Plasma Rifles, 1 Flamer and one Sargent Power Fist: $35 Metal Azrael with watcher in the Dark: $10 Fine Cast Banner Carrier: $10 2 Dark Angels Chapter Master primed Dark Green: $16 Bikes Pending. Will update after Monday

Aegis Defense Line, bare: $22 Spectrum Imperialis, New on sprue: $25 Craters, barrels, sandbag barriers and old GW ruined building walls: $40 Apocalypse Book, Newer one and in excellent condition: $40 Dark Angels data cards: $8 Battle Foam Hordes bag with lots of foam trays: $70

Assault Squad, 6 put together and bare 5 still on sprues. (One set was a Vanguard set.): $50 Chaplain with Jump Pack: Metal, stripped bare. $10 Metal Tech Marine in Power Suit, striped: $10 Metal Scout Captain from the Ultra Marines: $7 Metal Stern Guard with plastic backpacks: $23 2 Metal Chaplains, one with bolster the other with Plasma Pistol: $10 each Metal Liberian with Book in hand: $10 Militarum Tempestus, 10 men partially put together but mostly on sprue: $45 Dark Vengeance Liberian and Chapter Mater unassembled: $15 together Plastic Chapter Master from Black Reach, on sprue: $5 Metal Tech Marine with 3 Servitors: $15 Metal 3 Flamers of Tzeentch: $10 One full Squad of Tactical Marines from Black Reach, not glued and bare: $17 10 Termies from Dark Vengeance, unglued and bare: $65 2 full units from Dark Vengeance (20 guys assorted): $45 6 Bikes from Dark Vengeance: $40

Land Speeders: 2 Tornado Pattern with Heavy Flamer and Meltas. $12 each Dreadnought with Assault Cannons on each side, bare: $15 Venerable Dreadnought with interchangeable arms, primed cream color: $20 Forgot, 2 Vindicators, one bare the other primed Dark Green: $30 each

Have a large selection and bits for Dark Angels. I will make a list over the day but it is large. The only Vehicles I have left are a Drop Pod primed, a Rhino that can be changed into a Whirlwind or Razorback unprimed, (left the back unglued and had extra parts set up to switch out from game to game) and Landspeeders. Most of the lot is infantry (Termies, Vets, Bikes, Jump, Demo and just plain tactical.) Will part out gladly but would like serious buyers, please cash only, no trades.

I am not sure I wanted to hear that but you're welcome?

Well on a good note we got this coming.

Well yes, there are going to be those in the middle. My point was things are different and not everyone is going to be playing the same game, especially since AoS is a completely new game. And there are gong to be those testing out AoS to see how it holds for the long haul and not just the excitement of a new toy. Honestly there needs to be those kind of players. I just know without an balance I won't be playing and I enjoy complex games with solid rules, AoS is just not my kind of game. (I have heard the arguments about how AoS is balanced with sudden death rules but coming from WM/H I hated the assassination rule and AoS has many of them. And let's be very honest, yes the units come with their own rules, (Even though Malifaux models come with even more rules than AoS) but 4 pages of basic rules covering all the basic rules is just to light for my taste. 12-15 pages I can get behind but 4 is less than Risk.) Again this is my take of it and the game maybe just what some players really want, a simple Beer and Pretzel game.

The community has split into the AoS crowd and the Oldhammer crowd, so you will have to choose. Luckily you don't have to pay for the AoS rules and can decided for yourself. (So glad I didn't preorder anything. I personally hate the new rules and unless GW makes a 180 turn I will not be purchasing from them anymore.) I am falling back on my other games and will wait to see what happens. Also there are more rumors flying around about this not being just a Fantasy thing but they are considering giving 40K the AoS treatment. Talk about The Codex disappearing is out there. And before anyone says they wouldn't do that just remember when the Fantasy rumors first started, none of us bought it at first. Just for reference sake: "via Hastings on Warseer I have said I was told that Codexes (Codices? how the hell do you do the plural of Codex anyway???) would be gone within 2 years. That might mean the rules for each unit are included in the boxes/free on the net/wd etc. I do think that 40k rules will become more simplified, why? because GW don't want to focus on making games systems/rules anymore, they purely want to sell models. I do not doubt for one second that they (the main 40k rules) "COULD" become like AoS, but that is my personal opinion, and as I openly said that was me jumping to the conclusion based on how easily they destroyed their longest game world in favour of making more money. I think rather than being of any use at all this thread is purely scaremongering and misleading. The death of the codex doesn't mean the end of 40k, the death of the army book in WFB was because AoS had ALREADY killed WFB, and AoS had no place for army books." And Hastings was dead on about AoS a year ago, so yeah, food for thought. (I know Pretre already posted this on the 40K forum but I just thought it was relevant to the OP if he was a 40K player.)

Hey Guys I have a Blood Bowl Starter Box but it doesn't have any of the Models. Anyone one local to Portland interested? (Really trying to avoid the whole shipping and PayPal thing.)

I do see it as a big gamble for GW. This is a never before tested strategy from a Game Company to totally scrap a system for something completely different in my eyes. I really liked the Article and the last part hit home.

Nope, we need time to process and sort out where we stand before we move on. But like every other change that happens we will figure out where we fit and then we can move on. Also if we Moved On so easily the Music industry and Politics would be a very different world.

Actually expressing one's feelings is healthy. I am trying to give my reasons in an understandable way without going nuclear. And yes I will move on. But right now I just needed to express my disappointment before I make up my mind on selling of my stuff. A very human thing to do and I have done it. Sometimes we just want to know that we are not alone in the way we feel. (I have a college degree in this stuff so I know.) But I said what I felt and am done. That's how it works.

I have been buying Lots of Fantasy models over the last few years. So I was given the finger when I was supporting them! So your example fails here. And if you stated you like AoS then you shouldn't have to go and try and silence those that don't care for it. What's good for the Geese is good for the Gander.

I want to like the Game because it is the Replacement for WHFB and want to try it but will not do it without some sort of system to give it balance. I keep coming back here because I want to hear some good news that puts my feelings of disappointment to rest. And yes, it is because I have a large collection of models that suddenly lost most of their value. If something changes and they make AoS or whatever a system that is not so lacking in rules I will give it a go. But I feel like many others in that AoS is not very playable and now I had one of my favorite hobby games discontinued. I know that there are those who want to give this game praise but they are also trying to shame any with dissent out of the forums. Again I really want something good to come from this but if it stays with the rules as is I just lost out on my favorite game, $1000+ on models and hundreds of hour putting them together. And I know there are many who have done Way more than me. So if you guys want to shame the Nay-Sayers go for it, but our disappointment is genuine and founded on more reasons than new comers to AoS have for shaming us. You haven't invested as much into AoS as we have WHFB. And this is also a thread to show our disappointment too, so I will take my time somewhere else I guess.

If it looses support it will not succeed. This will be what the next year will be about, will AoS connect with players or will the new shine wear off and be left on the shelf? Sure right now it is selling but that is because it is Brand New and from GW, GW fans jump for new models all the time, but what about in four or five months as everyone understands and have tested out the rules? Will it still be good then? That is how I am looking at it. We will have to wait and see if this gamble pays off, but don't assume that since it is GW it will succeed. If you have no way to make a balanced game it will not last.

Well since this is the right thread I will say that WHFB is now on Life Support and will only remain alive as long as the greater community keeps it alive. GW has made it clear they currently have no intention on balancing and fixing the issues with AoS and I don't see it living long with what it offers. I had really wanted the new Edition of WHFB to be more with an ability to play at skirmish level while still being able to maintain its ability to be played on a large scale. Also I didn't want to see old models being discontinued but now whole Armies will have most if not all their current models and units discontinued. There will be something that resembles the old armies but as a whole they are going to be completely different. Well it was fun while it lasted now all we can do is watch as AoS struggles to find its place and see if GW wakes up and fixes its mistake before AoS becomes another Dreadfleet. I know the Vocal Minority doesn't want to admit it but GW did Jump the Shark here. This gimmick will not work if they don't but more time into rules writing, that is just common sense.