Norrad Posted April 7, 2014 Report Posted April 7, 2014 So I have been toying with building a fluffy Warriors of Chaos force. I want to build a small compact force dedicated to one of the gods and thought I would start with one of my favorites - blood, brass and skulls. Please tell me what you think of this Warriors of Khorne force. Its not meant to be top tier but fun to play and fun to play against. 2800pt Warriors of Chaos Daemon Prince - MOK, CHaos Arm, Beserk Sword, Collar Khorne, Scaled Skin, Daemonic Flight Exalted Hero - MOK, BSB, Halberd, Shield, Talisman Preservation Chaos Sorcerer - MOT, Lvl 2(Metal), Talisman Endurance, Chaos Familiar, Warshrine 23x Warriors - MOK, Halberd, Shield, CMD, Banner of Rage 1x Chariot - MOK 1x Chariot - MOK 5x Warhounds - vanguard 5x Warhounds - vanguard 5x Knights - MOK, CMD, Ensorcelled Weapons 1x Chimera - Flame Breath, Regen 3x Skull Crushers - CMD, Ensorcelled Weapons 1x Mutalith Vortex Beast I'm sure that you are asking, "Hey, wait a minute, I thought you said fluffy Khorne. Whats a Chaos Sorcerer of Tzeentch doing in this list?" Well fluff wise, this guy betrayed the Chaos Lord prior to the Lord being elevated to Daemonhood. Now this traitor has been captured and chained to a Chaos Warshrine where he is basically a spell slave handing out gifts to the glorious warriors of Khorne. Ok, so hes there purely for magic defense - little as it may be. Modelling wise I will either chain him to Khornes symbol or chain him to the shrine. So what are your thoughts? Too little, not fun, no challenge, etc. Quote
MexicanNinja Posted April 7, 2014 Report Posted April 7, 2014 No Bloodthirster? Nothing says Khorne theme more than a Bloodthirster. Quote
Norrad Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Posted April 7, 2014 Fluffly? Don't like fluffy huh! How about themey instead? Quote
Raindog Posted April 7, 2014 Report Posted April 7, 2014 Why the Vortex Beast and not a Slaughter brute? Quote
HeroZero Posted April 7, 2014 Report Posted April 7, 2014 And unless im gravely mistaken WOC doesnt have a greater daemon option. Unless something changed recently. Also I concur-No slaughterbrute ? For shame. Also Tzeentch magic man? I revoke your khorne card. Khornes magic defense is MOAR AXE TO FACE. Quote
Norrad Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Posted April 7, 2014 Why the Vortex Beast and not a Slaughter brute?i like both and was 50/50 on which to include. I opted for the Mutalith to add something to do in the magic phase. Quote
Norrad Posted April 9, 2014 Author Report Posted April 9, 2014 So does this list suck or is it ok? Quote
Ring_of_Gyges Posted April 9, 2014 Report Posted April 9, 2014 Seems fine to me. The Chariots, Knights, Chimera, and Skullcrushers are all very solid units, some of the best stuff in the book. The Warhounds are great for the cost. The Daemon Prince & Warriors aren't optimal, but they're both perfectly reasonable units. The Vortex Beast and Shrine are pretty weak. The beast because it is a pretty half hearted monster for the cost and its spell is pretty random. The Shrine because it only benefits a couple models and not in a predictable or controllable way. If you want to try them out, by all means they're good random fun. If you wanted to make the list harder you could swap them out. A level two sorcerer is fine, but why the power familiar? If his main job is magic defense he wants a Dispel Scroll, not an extra spell. The BSB is fine, but why the shield? He can't use it in close combat (he has to use the Halberd) and he's not likely to be shot sitting in an infantry block. Quote
MexicanNinja Posted April 9, 2014 Report Posted April 9, 2014 Here's my suggestion on the wizard. If he's just for defense make him a level 2 unmarked wizard with a lore that will help your army out. Instead of a dispel scroll, I know it will help you once, but I would take the Staff of Sorcerey which will give you a consistant +3 to dispel attempts and is cheaper than a level 3 wizard. I don't think you need LoM on your wizard. You have a lot of units which can deal with armoured threats. I would suggest death or fire. I suggest those two lores because it gives you a chance to kill mulitple threats at range. You have no shooting and will need something to make up for this. The Staff of Sorcerey is listed in the FAQ. It's one of the most forgotten and underestimated items, IMO. I like to stick it on my level 4, for the +5 to dispel. I like the shrine, it can help with clearing chaff. It's not easy for weak things to kill. The vortex beast is meh, to me. It can do great or it can do horrible. I don't think there's a solid middle ground for that unit. The one thing I think you are lacking, and because you are giving up magic entirely, is a Hellcannon. You need something to help deal with horde type units. It keeps your opponent honest, does great things but can still predictable. Quote
Norrad Posted April 10, 2014 Author Report Posted April 10, 2014 OK, taking some of the good ideas into account, how does this look? 2800pt Warriors of Chaos Daemon Prince - MOK, CHaos Arm, Sword of Strike, Dragon Helm, Collar Khorne, Scaled Skin, Daemonic Flight Exalted Hero - MOK, BSB, Halberd, Talisman Preservation Chaos Sorcerer - Lvl 2(Shadow), Staff of Sorcery, Warshrine 24x Warriors - MOK, Halberd, Shield, CMD, Banner of Rage 1x Chariot - MOK 1x Chariot - MOK 5x Warhounds - vanguard 5x Warhounds - vanguard 6x Knights - MOK, CMD, Ensorcelled Weapons 1x Chimera - Flame Breath, Regen 3x Skull Crushers - CMD, Ensorcelled Weapons 1x Hell Cannon Still not sold on the value of the Hell Cannon. I may sway this out for the Slaughterbrute. Not sure though! Quote
MexicanNinja Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 I like it. Test play a fe games with the hell cannon. There are reasons why people fear that thing! It has a great profile for shooting and fighting. Quote
Raindog Posted April 10, 2014 Report Posted April 10, 2014 I am up for a test game. The list looks solid without being abusive. You should win over half of your games with the list and your skill. Quote
Norrad Posted April 12, 2014 Author Report Posted April 12, 2014 With the ridiculous list of restrictions, is this list even legal for this years OFCC event? I cant tell. It says max two from the list but where does the list end? Does it end after the Daemon Prince and Chimera or does it also include the Skullcrushers and Hell cannon? Quote
Raindog Posted April 12, 2014 Report Posted April 12, 2014 It is legal. You have no more than 2 of the following: Dp and Chimera. You have less than 8 Skullcrushers and only one Hell Cannon. Quote
Norrad Posted May 7, 2014 Author Report Posted May 7, 2014 So with discussions starting on OFCC lists how would you rate this list? I know that it contains the items that people do not like, such as the flying Daemon Prince, Regen Chimera and Skull Crushers. If those are just too much then how would you fix this list to make it more palatable while maintaining the Khorne feel? Quote
MexicanNinja Posted May 7, 2014 Report Posted May 7, 2014 I'd rate it roughly as a 3.7. It's the combo of the DP, Chimera, and Skull Crushers. If you want to lower that to between a 3 and 3.5, I'd drop the Chimera and got with a unit of chaos ogres with mark of khorne. The other option would be to do some kind of combination of mauraders and maurader horsemen. I like the daemon prince, it's not the normal nurgle prince of doom! The skull crushers aren't that horrible because you only have a unit of 3. However, when I look at the list as a whole and see the combo it possesses....chariots, knights, crushers, DP, chimera, large block of warriors, I rate it close to a 4. You pack quite a bit of terror/fear causing units. However, you do lack magic defense and certain shooting will pick you apart, so I revert back towards the mid 3 area. In the end I say this is a 3.7. The one thing which does confuse me though is lore of metal. Why lore of metal? You have enough units to punch through armour. Quote
Norrad Posted May 7, 2014 Author Report Posted May 7, 2014 No its lore of Shadow. Look at the 2nd list down in the post. Im also still thinking about taking the Slaughterbrute instead of the Hell Cannon. Quote
MexicanNinja Posted May 7, 2014 Report Posted May 7, 2014 Oh, looking at second list time meow! Quote
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