Lyraeus Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 I redesigned my Guardian Cup list... Mwuhahahaha!!! I got ahold of Ben Jurek for a bit of his lunch break and he gor my creative side roiling and I was able to adjust my Brigade and Battalion of Orks! For those that don't know Ben Jurek won a GT with Pirate orks which were known as the second weakest Kulture around... Oh and he did it with 2 Gorkanauts, 3 flyers and some Gunz... He is an Elegant list builder to say the least. Any who, enough of my fan boying. Here is my list. ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Orks) [72 PL, 1464pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Deathskulls + HQ + Big Mek W/ Shokk Attack Gun [4 PL, 84pts]: Grot Oiler, Shokk Attack Gun, Warlord Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts]: 3. Da Jump Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts]: 3. Da Jump Warboss in Mega Armour (index) [7 PL, 120pts]: Power Klaw, Shoota + Troops + Boyz [11 PL, 237pts]: 3x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Killsaw, Kombi-Rokkit . 29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Boyz [11 PL, 237pts]: 3x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Killsaw, Kombi-Rokkit . 10x Ork Boy W/ Shoota . 19x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Elites + Kommandos [2 PL, 40pts] . 3x Kommando . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna Kommandos [2 PL, 40pts] . 3x Kommando . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna Mad Dok Grotsnik [5 PL, 86pts] + Fast Attack + Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta + Heavy Support + Mek Gunz [4 PL, 62pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [6 PL, 107pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun . Gun: Traktor Kannon . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [4 PL, 90pts] . Gun: Traktor Kannon . Gun: Traktor Kannon ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Orks) [27 PL, 536pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Bad Moons + HQ + Warboss [4 PL, 78pts]: Power Klaw, Shoota (Index) Big Mek on Warbike (Index) [6 PL, 101pts]: Choppa, Kustom Force Field + Troops + Gretchin [2 PL, 42pts]: 14x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Heavy Support + Lootas [13 PL, 255pts]: 15x Lootas ++ Total: [99 PL, 2000pts] ++ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I'm confused... Did part of this list get cut off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Lord Hanaur said: I'm confused... Did part of this list get cut off? Nope it's all there. Just how it pasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 The lootaz werent showing, that i could see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: The lootaz werent showing, that i could see Shhhhh you saw nothing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 After a game last night where my Gunz didn't have invul support, I dropped a smasha gun, 4 grots, 4 boyz and downgraded Killa Saws to Power Klaws and got this. ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Orks) [70 PL, 1401pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Deathskulls + HQ + Big Mek W/ Shokk Attack Gun [4 PL, 84pts]: Grot Oiler, Shokk Attack Gun, Warlord Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts]: Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts]: Warboss in Mega Armour (index) [7 PL, 120pts]: Power Klaw, Shoota + Troops + Boyz [11 PL, 221pts]: 2x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Kombi-Rokkit, Power Klaw . 27x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Boyz [11 PL, 221pts]: 2x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Kombi-Rokkit, Power Klaw . 10x Ork Boy W/ Shoota . 17x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Elites + Kommandos [2 PL, 40pts] . 3x Kommando . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna Kommandos [2 PL, 40pts] . 3x Kommando . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna Mad Dok Grotsnik [5 PL, 86pts] + Fast Attack + Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta + Heavy Support + Mek Gunz [4 PL, 62pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [4 PL, 76pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun . Gun: Traktor Kannon Mek Gunz [4 PL, 90pts] . Gun: Traktor Kannon . Gun: Traktor Kannon ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Orks) [31 PL, 599pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Bad Moons + HQ + Warboss [4 PL, 78pts]: Power Klaw, Shoota (Index) Big Mek (Index) [5 PL, 75pts]: Choppa, Kustom Force Field Big Mek on Warbike (Index) [6 PL, 101pts]: Choppa, Kustom Force Field + Troops + Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Heavy Support + Lootas [13 PL, 255pts]: 15x Loota ++ Total: [101 PL, 2000pts] ++ All lootas are accounted for. I wish I could find 4 points to add a Grot oiler the Mek as he will just get sniped but if they are focusing him down and not another character I should already be losing or fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Kustom Megablasters are mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Kustom Megablasters are mean Especially on Deathskulls where I can reroll the single hit and single wound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lyraeus said: Especially on Deathskulls where I can reroll the single hit and single wound Yes, that is useful. My friend desperately wanted me to take them instead of the Traktor Kannons. Thing is, I like not failing to hit. As I have all the anti-personell ability in the world, i wanted some reliability that didn't require huge gobs of dice. But the Kustom Maga Blasters are a very dangerous group of weapons and will take their toll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 57 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Yes, that is useful. My friend desperately wanted me to take them instead of the Traktor Kannons. Thing is, I like not failing to hit. As I have all the anti-personell ability in the world, i wanted some reliability that didn't require huge gobs of dice. But the Kustom Maga Blasters are a very dangerous group of weapons and will take their toll. I have 3 traktors and 3 Smashaz, the KMB are just a higher AP Rokkit. If if could put them on nobz... In an instant. Especially since it's cheaper than Rokkits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 @Lord Hanaur thanks for the idea... I added more KMB's on a unit everyone dismissed ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Orks) [71 PL, 1412pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Deathskulls + HQ + Big Mek W/ Shokk Attack Gun [4 PL, 84pts]: Grot Oiler, Shokk Attack Gun, Warlord Big Mek (Index) [5 PL, 79pts]: Choppa, Grot Oiler, Kustom Force Field Warboss in Mega Armour (index) [7 PL, 122pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw + Troops + Boyz [11 PL, 237pts]: 3x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Killsaw, Kombi-Rokkit . 29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Boyz [11 PL, 237pts]: 3x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Killsaw, Kombi-Rokkit . 10x Ork Boy W/ Shoota . 19x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Elites + Mek [2 PL, 31pts]: Choppa, Kustom Mega-blasta (Index) Kommandos [2 PL, 40pts] . 3x Kommando . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna . Kommando W/ 'Eavy Weapon (Index): Burna Mad Dok Grotsnik [5 PL, 86pts] Mek [2 PL, 31pts]: Choppa, Kustom Mega-blasta (Index) + Fast Attack + Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta + Heavy Support + Mek Gunz [4 PL, 62pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [4 PL, 90pts] . Gun: Traktor Kannon . Gun: Traktor Kannon Mek Gunz [4 PL, 76pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun . Gun: Traktor Kannon ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Orks) [29 PL, 588pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Bad Moons + HQ + Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts]: 3. Da Jump Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts]: 3. Da Jump Big Mek on Warbike (Index) [6 PL, 101pts]: Choppa, Kustom Force Field + Troops + Gretchin [2 PL, 48pts]: 16x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Heavy Support + Lootas [13 PL, 255pts]: 15x Loota ++ Total: [100 PL, 2000pts] ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 This is the latest version... And I blame @peter.cosgrove for getting my mind working things out... It is now a Brigade, a Battalion, AND a Spearhead.... Because 20cp just wasn't enough..... ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Orks) [61 PL, 1258pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Deathskulls + HQ + Big Mek W/ Shokk Attack Gun [4 PL, 84pts]: Grot Oiler, Shokk Attack Gun, Warlord Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts]: 3. Da Jump Warboss in Mega Armour (index) [7 PL, 122pts]: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw + Troops + Boyz [11 PL, 235pts]: 3x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Kombi-Rokkit, Power Klaw . 29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Boyz [11 PL, 235pts]: 3x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Kombi-Rokkit, Power Klaw . 10x Ork Boy W/ Shoota . 19x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Elites + Mek [2 PL, 31pts]: Choppa, Kustom Mega-blasta (Index) Mek [2 PL, 31pts]: Choppa, Kustom Mega-blasta (Index) Mad Dok Grotsnik [5 PL, 86pts] + Fast Attack + Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta Deff Kopta [2 PL, 39pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Kustom Mega-blasta + Heavy Support + Mek Gunz [2 PL, 45pts] . Gun: Traktor Kannon Mek Gunz [2 PL, 45pts] . Gun: Traktor Kannon Mek Gunz [2 PL, 45pts] . Gun: Traktor Kannon ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Orks) [22 PL, 469pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Bad Moons + HQ + Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts] Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts] + Troops + Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Heavy Support + Lootas [13 PL, 255pts]: 15x Loota ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Orks) [17 PL, 273pts] ++ Clan Kultur: Blood Axes + HQ + Big Mek (Index) [5 PL, 79pts]: Choppa, Grot Oiler, Kustom Force Field Big Mek on Warbike (Index) [6 PL, 101pts]: Choppa, Kustom Force Field + Heavy Support + Mek Gunz [2 PL, 31pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [2 PL, 31pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [2 PL, 31pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun ++ Total: [100 PL, 2000pts] ++ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 20 cp should getcha there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: 20 cp should getcha there. But 21 is better. It gets even better if I can add a possible CP regen that has a chance of returning multiple CP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 My only concern for tournament play is that with more CP and more units, your army make take even longer to do things. I know that time concerns you. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, paxmiles said: My only concern for tournament play is that with more CP and more units, your army make take even longer to do things. I know that time concerns you. Good luck. time is an issue for ANY army with a lot of models. My patented Pencil box technique is guaranteed to allow you to plus a full 6 rounds in just 2.5 hours of total play! order today and you'll not only receive all of this valuable information but today only I'll throw in... a Picture of my pencil box's ABSOLUTELY FREE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Lord Hanaur said: time is an issue for ANY army with a lot of models. My patented Pencil box technique is guaranteed to allow you to plus a full 6 rounds in just 2.5 hours of total play! order today and you'll not only receive all of this valuable information but today only I'll throw in... a Picture of my pencil box's ABSOLUTELY FREE! Hahahaha, it depends on how you are moving. If you do the front model back model, fill the gap technique it moves faster but for someone like @paxmiles who wants a tighter game where the millimeters matter, thata harder to achieve. The list has what, 172 models. About 50 of them don't really move and the others might and maybe 20-30 more might hang out so in reality I move maybe 90 models and and. That's Generous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Lyraeus said: Hahahaha, it depends on how you are moving. If you do the front model back model, fill the gap technique it moves faster but for someone like @paxmiles who wants a tighter game where the millimeters matter, thata harder to achieve. The list has what, 172 models. About 50 of them don't really move and the others might and maybe 20-30 more might hang out so in reality I move maybe 90 models and and. That's Generous Mine has 200 even. And I don't care how anal someone gets. I am not going to kill myself for a distinction that makes no difference. 😃 So i move the front two On either side with precision, aand then start pumping them arms. We got a game to play. I also have cheaty sticks of 9" doom that allow me to VERY quickly triangulate where the closest point is to DS etc... so My life is made easy as long as I bring all my toys. I set up at mach speed. Four corner orks, aaaaand...dump and...your turn. I'll stand em up while you deploy. deeep Strike? Lay down my 9 inch little rods and...slap em all on the table. stand em up afterwards. It takes practice but I have mastered the art of getting that dang game done in time. Soooooo many models. Gotta go fast. Oh and even if its alternating deployment...just keep deploying. Its not like theres some deep meaningful plan that no one will see coming if you make them wait to see it. 😃 I'm pretty sure they know whats coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Mine has 200 even. And I don't care how anal someone gets. I am not going to kill myself for a distinction that makes no difference. 😃 So i move the front two On either side with precision, aand then start pumping them arms. We got a game to play. I also have cheaty sticks of 9" doom that allow me to VERY quickly triangulate where the closest point is to DS etc... so My life is made easy as long as I bring all my toys. I set up at mach speed. Four corner orks, aaaaand...dump and...your turn. I'll stand em up while you deploy. deeep Strike? Lay down my 9 inch little rods and...slap em all on the table. stand em up afterwards. It takes practice but I have mastered the art of getting that dang game done in time. Soooooo many models. Gotta go fast. Oh and even if its alternating deployment...just keep deploying. Its not like theres some deep meaningful plan that no one will see coming if you make them wait to see it. 😃 I'm pretty sure they know whats coming. Heh... 3x 9" movement template for me. I am still working to be faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 20, 2019 Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Lyraeus said: Heh... 3x 9" movement template for me. I am still working to be faster. FASTER, monkey! DANCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted March 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: FASTER, monkey! DANCE! Getting there 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Munkie Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 1:52 PM, Lord Hanaur said: Mine has 200 even. And I don't care how anal someone gets. I am not going to kill myself for a distinction that makes no difference. 😃 So i move the front two On either side with precision, aand then start pumping them arms. We got a game to play. I also have cheaty sticks of 9" doom that allow me to VERY quickly triangulate where the closest point is to DS etc... so My life is made easy as long as I bring all my toys. I set up at mach speed. Four corner orks, aaaaand...dump and...your turn. I'll stand em up while you deploy. deeep Strike? Lay down my 9 inch little rods and...slap em all on the table. stand em up afterwards. It takes practice but I have mastered the art of getting that dang game done in time. Soooooo many models. Gotta go fast. Oh and even if its alternating deployment...just keep deploying. Its not like theres some deep meaningful plan that no one will see coming if you make them wait to see it. 😃 I'm pretty sure they know whats coming. There are some genuinely helpful tips in here for any timed game, not just for large model count, thanks! I'm a fairly slow player, and the Drukhari army I brought to the OFCC last year did not help. Running 3 patrols for the Raiding Force +4 CP was a fun, diverse army but there was sooo much diversity that there were way too many profiles to keep track of. Not to mention like 20ish drops and 28 units or something. Ima go make deep strike sticks... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, Munkie said: There are some genuinely helpful tips in here for any timed game, not just for large model count, thanks! I'm a fairly slow player, and the Drukhari army I brought to the OFCC last year did not help. Running 3 patrols for the Raiding Force +4 CP was a fun, diverse army but there was sooo much diversity that there were way too many profiles to keep track of. Not to mention like 20ish drops and 28 units or something. Ima go make deep strike sticks... Thanks. Make them as small as possible. Interacts less w terrain and models. Mine are simple metal rods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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