AgentP Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'm going to use this thread to chronicle the building and painting of my army of the machine god. Right now, I am building the Adeptus Mechanics War Convocation. This is a formation appearing in White Dwarf: FORMATION: • 1 Cult Mechanicus Battle Congregation Detachment (see Codex: Cult Mechanicus) • 1 Skitarii Battle Maniple (see Codex: Skitarii) • 1 Imperial Knight Oathsworn Detachment (see Codex: Imperial Knights) RESTRICTIONS: None. SPECIAL RULES The Machine Brotherhood of Mars: All units in this formation have the Canticles of the Omnissiah special rule (see Codex: Cult Mechanicus), even though they do not all have the Cult Mechanicus Faction.” Alpha-Dominus: If this Formation’s Tech-Priest Dominus is your Warlord, you can re-roll the result when rolling on the Warlord Traits table in Codex: Cult Mechanicus. Might of the Adeptus Mechanicus: All weapon and wargear options taken by units in this Formation, including any Relics of Mars or Arcana Mechanicum, are free. Furthermore, all weapons with the Gets Hot special rule carried by a model in this Formation no longer has the Gets Hot special rule. _____________________ Now, as for my list that I am building, here it is. This represents the base cost of each model totaling 1850, because the formation makes all wargear and upgrades FREE. Cult Mechanicus: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) Tech-Priest DominusErradication ray, Phosphor serpenta, Digital weapons, Infoslave skull, uncreator gauntlet Troops Kataphron Destroyers Kataphron DestroyerHeavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster Kataphron DestroyerHeavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster Kataphron DestroyerHeavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster Kataphron Destroyers Kataphron DestroyerHeavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster Kataphron DestroyerHeavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster Kataphron DestroyerHeavy grav-cannon, Phosphor blaster Heavy Support Kastelan Robot ManipleCybernetica Datasmith, Digital weapons, Infoslave skull, Mask of the Alpha Dominus Kastelan RobotIncendine combustor, Two power fists Kastelan RobotIncendine combustor, Two power fists Skitarii: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) Formation Battle Maniple Onager Dunecrawlers Onager DunecrawlerCognis heavy stubber, Cognis manipulator, Icarus Array - Twin autocannon, Gatling rockets, Daedalus, Mindscanner probe, Smoke launchers Sicarian InfiltratorsFlechette Blasters and Taser Goads, 4x Sicarian Infiltrator Infiltrator PrincepsDigital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Refractor field, The Omniscient Mask Sicarian Ruststalkers4x Sicarian Ruststalker, Transonic razor, Chordclaw, and Mindscrambler Grenades Ruststalker PrincepsDigital weapons, Pater Radium, Prehensile Dataspike, Refractor field Skitarii Rangers3x Arc rifle, Omnispex, 9x Skitarii Ranger Ranger AlphaDigital weapons, Phosphor blast pistol, Refractor field, The Phase Taser Skitarii VanguardOmnispex, 3x Plasma caliver, 9x Skitarii Vanguard Vanguard AlphaArc maul, Digital weapons, Phosphor blast pistol, Refractor field, The Skull of Elder Nikola Sydonian Dragoons Sydonian DragoonPhosphor serpenta, Taser lance Sydonian DragoonPhosphor serpenta, Taser lance Imperial Knights: Codex (2015) (Oathsworn Detachment) Lord of War Knight PaladinHeavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword, Twin Icarus Autocannon, Warlord/Lord Baron, Warlord/Lord Baron ________________ As I said before, that's 1850 of models under the formation's rules, but the real number is about 2400 once the "free" upgrades and wargear is factored in. I'll start posting pictures as I paint units. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Oh my. That formation is going to be disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Oh yes. It's a giant mountain of Gouda the likes of which the game has never seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Meh. It gives you some good "free" stuff, but you're doing it at the expense of taking an army with lots of mediocre units in it and with a very mixed set of goals, which can be pretty detrimental. I think Grav on the Kataphrons is probably better than Plasma. You need a way to hurt Wraithknights. The Knight Errant should be a Warden or Paladin, and the Thunderstrike Gauntlet isn't worth it even when it's free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Yes, the destroyers have grav, that was a mistake. None of the units are bad, not optimized for size yes, but not bad. It rewards exactly what I love in an army - a random smattering of all the models that look cool. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Oh my. That formation is going to be disgusting. That is the exact word I was thinking. Disgusting. Worst bit is that with ITC, you could have another two detachments in there, as the formation of detachments has been ruled to count only as a single detachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Yes, it's only appropriate to take to events where you just don't give a [bleep]. So....like LVO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 That is the exact word I was thinking. Disgusting. Worst bit is that with ITC, you could have another two detachments in there, as the formation of detachments has been ruled to count only as a single detachment. Why would you want two more detachments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Why would you want two more detachments? More the principle of the thing. It's disgusting as is, plus it further exploits loopholes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Well, it's at 1850 as it is, so no more detachments are going in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 the Thunderstrike Gauntlet isn't worth it even when it's free. I didn't realize it dropped you to initiative step 1. Yeah, that's not worth it. I'll keep the sword, it's already painted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 For the Battle Maniple, you have to choose between Dragoons and Ballistarii, you can't take both :( I really think that, at anything besides the very top levels of competition, this Formation is going to be pretty insanely strong. I should have the stuff to field mine within a week :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanvoodoo Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Super cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Picked up the codex. This formation will count as 10 units for the canticles????. Some amazing effects at that level - stealth + shrouded for some first turn survivabiliry? Sure. Reroll all ranged to hit for alpha strike from hell? Love to. Infiltrators, rust stalkers, and dragoons at +3 Str? Sounds lovely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think I need to change the murderbots back to power fists. Not a huge loss in firepower, and more synergy with canticles. Wondering if I split the kataphrons into destoyers and breachers? If I keep them both destoyers do I double down on grav, or make one plasma, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I don't think this list is all that scary compared to even an Eldar CAD army. That being said, it looks really cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 It's not nearly as scary as some make it out. It's anti-spamness limits it. Fun as hell though, and a modeling dream 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Also, the title of this thread is my favorite Pink Floyd song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Done on purpose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Breachers are a bit more survivable, which can help, but I feel like they don't really do anything in an army that already has the Kastellans and Knight doing the heavy melee lifting. Definitely go with Fists on the 'bots, though, doubling Str and +1A is worth keeping. As I said before, I think Grav is better than Plasma- it very rarely wounds on less than a 4+ (since you don't really shoot it at those targets) and gets a boatload of shots to use with a good Canticles turn. It also kills Wraithknights/Heirodules (which you otherwise are pretty mediocre at) and AV13+ vehicles more effectively than Plasma would. Also, the title of this thread is my favorite Pink Floyd song. It's a damn fine song, to be sure, but for my money it's hard to beat Comfortably Numb. I wish they weren't so adamant about not allowing their songs on Rock Band or other individually-packaged media, though, because there's a lot of Pink Floyd songs I would love to rock out to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Comfortably Numb, Welcome to the Machine, Pigs on the Wing, Wish You Were Here.... the soundtrack of my youth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Comfortably Numb, Welcome to the Machine, Pigs on the Wing, Wish You Were Here.... the soundtrack of my youth How old are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Comfortably Numb is a fine song as well, I just like the expansiveness of Welcome to the Machine. I'm not a huge musical nerd, so pardon me if I'm wrong, but, from what I've heard of contemporary music, WttM sounds totally unique compared to other music at the time, and CN isn't too much of a departure compared to other stuff. In any event, we're arguing about opinions here, and that's silly. Let's just agree that Pink Floyd is awesome and that they should be on RockBand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 My burner cell is registered to Syd Floyd. I don't think anyone here is arguing, Fluger. For once... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 How old are you? I know you were talking to Perry, but I grew up listening to a lot of classic rock that my parents loved. My childhood music is Chicago, Creedence, Herb Alpert, Cream, and Chuck Mangione. But, I was born well after those bands were mainstream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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