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hits a target within the Void Shield Zone instead hits the projected void shield again, bolded for emphasis....

I understand perfectly how rules with area effects work....

once more... "hits a target within the Void Shield Zone instead hits the projected void shield" targets outside the shield don't get the benefit, as they are not WITHIN the shield.

you are, erroneously, applying a specific rule, for a specific situation, (ie shooting targeting) in generalized manner to a situation that it has not been designed for. this is what people call a "jackie chan moment"

I'm off to paint a waterfall... Probably more chance of success than debating rules in a sensible manner with you.

Ok. let's do this in English. The English it was written it... my English! 1) "Each projected void shield has a 12" area of effect" - Void Shields project 12". 2) "(measured from any point on the Void Shield Generator building), known as a Void Shield Zone". - This has a defined name. 3) "Any shooting attack that originates from outside a Void Shield Zone and hits a target within the Void Shield Zone...." - shooting comes from outside the defined "zone", affects units within the zone 4) "....instead hits the projected void shield" - the effect. There is no extending the "zone" there is no "the zone covers this, and this and this".... the zone of effect is defined, limited, and absolute. Period.

maybe in your mind/group, but I have NEVER encountered anyone doing it the "wrong" way!.

From the e-version; "Each projected void shield has a 12" area of effect (measured from any point on the Void Shield Generator building), known as a Void Shield Zone. Any shooting attack that originates from outside a Void Shield Zone and hits a target within the Void Shield Zone instead hits the projected void shield. If a unit is within 12" of more than one Void Shield Generator, and so within more than one Void Shield Zone when it is hit, randomly determine which of the buildings’ projected void shields is hit." Bolding is mine for emphasis... It is quite clear to me that a) it is a defined area shield, and b) it protects units that are within that area. I don't see any ambiguity!

Because that's not how a void shield generator works! I don't recall the old KFF rules, but the "canon" on 40k is quite clear that a void shield is a bubble with defined limits.

Reading about the LVO last weekend, something interesting came up... According to the ITC FAQ; "A unit only needs to have a single model at least partially within 12” of a Void Shield Generator for the entire unit to benefit from it. " Now, this seems silly, but I can see the point... Up to a point. There is nothing in the GW Stronghold Assault FAQ about this, so I'm not sure why it is even an issue... The shenanigans at LVO involved an Ork player who would string his full size ork boyz units out, leaving one model "under" the void dome. Yeah, major ass-hattery! I understand that using the ITC FAQ is a quick and easy "fix" for GW rules issues, but some of them seem to be more troublesome than they are worth. I'd rather we stuck with the GW ones, and our own common sense. Thoughts?

A-Club Overachievers all paid.

Where is the "approved" list?

any word on tickets? has the hotel rate (for Sunday night) been fixed yet?

Block LoS even when open. I think that counts as modelling for advantage! Cheater.

any idea when? team is hovering at their keyboards!

A-Club Overachievers will be paying asap.

woot!

$2 million.... insanity!

and the rate is not for the Sunday night... grrr...

Code does not give a discount on their website...

A-Club will be bringing two teams again this year. Both the Underdogs and the Overachievers will attend.

Sadly, for some players, less restrictive = being an asshat.

Hopefully the second is true, but the first will not happen.

Whilst I personally am disappointment with both events (team and open) on the same day, I get it. What I AM concerned with though is the ITC aspect for 40k. I, respectfully, hope that the HoG will discourage douche-bag gaming at this event. I heard lots of horror stories for last week's TSHFT about players, TOs, terrain and non-painted armies. Ordo would take a big blow to its reputation if similar issues were to occur.

I have a "same as" question... Are Tyranis Primes the same-as Tyranid Warriors? Is Old One Eye the same-as a Carnifex? Running some test games for a Vancouver tourney next year...