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I updated the original post with the load-outs of my vehicles, I have the extra bits to change them out though. Like I said thought willing/wanting to get some new models to help out my army list. Which SM Chapter should I use?

I currently have a fairly sizable Dark Angels army and I want to play with it as a “counts as” Space Marine army. Dark Angels are not supposed to be so great and I have heard Space Marines have access to this thing called a gravity gun. I am also interested in potentially using Space Wolfs or Dark Angels as an ally. I am leaning towards not using fortifications or flyers, but I would like to include my Knight. I have only been playing for a few years, so I need some help list building. Typically you see people post up their list and people comment on it. I thought I would try a different approach, more of a blank canvas. I figured I would list out all the models I own and see what people can come up with. My goal is to try and use as much of what I currently own and buy stuff to fill in the gaps. I am really interested in a friendly “Take All Comers” Battle-forged list. I will be using this list for the current Escalation league (Maelstrom heavy missions) at Ordo. I am thinking 2000 points; I can pare it down from there. I know this is a bit of a big ask, but any help would be appreciated. Even if it is; oh you should take this unit for sure; or here is a list that I use that uses some of the stuff you have that works well; or go to this website for some great list ideas etc. Anyone that helps out and wants to challenge my list can feel free to play against me on Tuesdays at the club. Thanks all. SM Primary / DA or SW Ally / Imperial Knight Detachment Battle-forged TAC list 2000 points Maelstrom Missions Generic counts as SM/Imperial Models: 1 Bastion 1 Skyshield Landing Pad 1 Imperial Knight Paladin with Rapid fire battle cannon / 2X Heavy Stubbers / Reaper Chainsword 1 Landraider with TL Lascannons / TL Heavy Bolter / Multi-Melta 1 Dreadnaught with Assault Cannon / Heavy Flamer / Power Fist 1 Predator TL Lascannon / 2X Lascannons 1 Land Speeder with Heavy Bolter / Typhoon Missle Launcher 22 Tactical SM with Boltguns 2 Tactical SM with Plasma Guns 2 Tactical SM with Plasma Cannons 1 Tactical SM with Missile Launcher 1 Tactical SM Sergeant with Storm Bolter / Power Fist 1 Tactical SM Sergeant with Storm Bolter / Chain Sword 1 Tactical SM Sergeant with Plasma Pistol / Chain Sword 3 Scouts with Sniper Rifles 1 Scout with Missile Launcher 1 Scout Sergeant with Sniper Rifle 1 Biker with TL Boltgun 1 Biker with TL Boltgun / Plasma Gun 1 Biker Sergeant TL Boltgun / Chain Sword 2 Terminators with Storm Bolter / Powerfist 1 Terminator with Assault Cannon / Powerfist 1 Terminator with Storm Bolter / Chainfist 1 Terminator with Heavy Flamer / Chainfist 1 Terminator with a Pair of Lightning Claws 1 Terminator Apothecary with Storm Bolter 1 Terminator Sergeant with Storm Bolter / Force Sword 1 Company Master with Combi-Plasma / Force Sword 1 Librarian with Bolt Pistol / Force Sword 1 Interrogator Chaplain with Plasma Pistol / Crozius Arcanum Dark Angels Specific Models: 1 Nephilim Jetfighter 1 Belial 1 Ezekiel 5 Deathwing Knights (might be able to use as Thunderhammer Stormshield Terminators) 1 Terminator with Halberd of Caliban 1 Terminator Banner Bearer with Storm Bolter / Powerfist

Ok sounds good, I think I will just plan on bringing 50 bucks with me on Tuesday then. Thanks for the help.

Now I am confused I thought we all agreed that a LR is the ultimate AA in 40k....haha! That is a nice change in how fortifications are deployed.

I was about ready to sign up for Warlord level on paypal when it says "30 for first year, then 30 each year after". Does that mean it will automaticly bill me every year till the end of time??? Also I heard for game night dues you can get a punch card at the club house. If I am a Warlord how much cash should I bring to get said punch card. Thanks again.

I think I am tending to go down the "Ignore Flyers" route. If someone brings one they may not be able to come out until turn 4 anyway. It really sounds like a lot of people dont use them and they also cannot claim objectives. Oh and I love the look of the DA flyer but yes the rules are just ok for it.

I had a good time playing my first game at the club yesterday and even though I showed up late you guys still got me a game. Special thanks goes to Chappy for taking the time to wipe my entire Dark Angel army off the board with his Grey Knights....haha!

Wow it seems like everyone hates flyrants except for Tyranid players. I guess the next game I have that has them in the list, I will just pack my army back up and give the win to the Tyranid player...haha!

Woops sorry... Any update on new objective markers. Played a game last night with the other ones you designed, very nice.

Night fighting is different in 7th it can only happen on turn one now and only if one player chooses to roll for it. If both players don't want to night fight it does not happen at all.

Actually the rules have changed on night fighting, it only happens on turn 1 and only if one player wants to roll for it. If both players dont want to night fight then no roll is made.

My main thing was finding a unit that was versitle enough to handle flyers and not be wasted points when there are no flyers. I guess my ultimate goal would be able to create a TAC balanced non "star" type list.

But how am I supposed to snap fire flyers to death with only 2 rolls and not 4?

Generic Imperial would be the best way to go considering all of the Imperial Factions and that nearly all terrain is Imperial themed. Any update on this, I have been looking for some nice objective markers marked 1 thru 6.

I do really like the changes to the Jink rules, you have to decide before any shots are fired and deal with the consequences of BS1 even if no shots end up hitting. Side note when you are firing a twin-linked weapon with Prescience cast on it do you get a total of 4 rolls? I have always played that way. But I was re-reading the core rule book last night and it said you can only ever get one re-roll of a dice.

If all goes well, I will be there to get my first game in at Ordo.

To be clear the only way to get the Stormwolf on turn 1 is with a formation? But you are saying it is the best Imperial Flyer? Not really wanting to go the Forgeworld route. I can see how the DA Black Knights would make an ok anti-flyer unit with their twin linked plasma talons. Plus still usable on the ground. What about standard marines with Flak Missles. I was thinking a devastator squad with multiple missile launchers?

I play Dark Angels and I have the Nephilim Jetfigher...and its ok. But since I play an Imperial army it is very easy to ally in other Imperal Armies. The problem with using a flyer is that they can get stuck in reserves forever if you get a bunch of crappy rolls. If you take a unit with Skyfire and your opponent does not bring any flyers, that unit can only hit non flying units on 6's. I do know that Tau have units that can either Skyfire or not. I would like to have a more versatile unit that will work well if you end up playing against a flyer or not, or a flyer that can come in on Turn 1. Does anyone know of an Imperial Unit like that? It might also be that I am overthinking this and no one uses flyers anymore.

Ok I am all set to be there, no later than 4:30.

It sounds like we should all plan on meeting at the clubhouse at the same time to line up games. What time will work for everyone?

Sounds like I should just be sticking with board gaming then and that is fine, mainly why I am going anyway.

I missed the first night of the league as well and would be interested in a make up game on Sunday. This will be my first time playing at Ordo. I am free anytime after 4:30.

Question, if I was to show up late around 7 to 7:30 lets say on Tuesday nights would I be able to get a league game in? To make things worst I am not the fastest player either.

I heard from someone else that they have a dedicated wargaming area, but it was very much dead.

I bought tickets for Gamestorm in March and I was wondering if there are many events or people who play WH40k there? I have never been and I am mainly going to play board games and maybe RPG's but I was just wondering about any wargaming events?