peter.cosgrove

hehe.. hehe.. And you can take short squads and pay less for them.. hehe..

Is there a game night planned for today?

Actually I need a team. Is there a spot still open?

somewhere between 5 and 5:30

ya, I went there but there wasn't anyone playing.

PGS doesn't have a 40k league/game time posted on their calendar for Mon/Fri

alrighty.

I can do that. What do you want to go up against? I can bring CSM, SM, BA. I'll go ahead and show up at 2.

Was that the edition where when they took damage they moved forward?

GG has 2 leagues on wednesday. Tournament and casual. The prizes are across the board, warlord, painting, sportsmanship, and play. There is a prize draw at the end of the month and you can only win 1 item. When you win you get 2 tickets, the other player gets 1, 5 tickets for overall wins, painting, sportsmanship. Generally there are 5-8 prizes per league each month depending on how many people in the league.

I don't have a facebook account. I have a security clearance so I have to hand over all my account information to the intel guys. Rather than deal with all that I just don't do social media.

But it doesn't say that. It says "you add up the points values of all the models and weapons in your army". If something isn't in your army, it isn't there. you don't add it's point value because it isn't in your army.

No.. you don't pay until after the unit is built. You build the unit, THEN you pay for the wargear it has. You don't pay, then unpay, then build, then repay, then calculate the final value. You only calculate the final value of units and current wargear after the list is complete. This is because until the match is started the list is still incomplete. Your list isn't completely built until the person you are playing reviews it and you compare list values against the agreed list points. You don't build a list and pay for it in a vacuum. Someone else has to review your list before you actually pay the list points because you are comparing your list points to theirs if you are playing them. This is how people can add/subtract stuff from their list at the beginning of the match. If a tournament sets a point limit, the list is still not complete until a tournament person reviews and approves the list. Which is after you build the list and allocate the points for the wargear, which happens after you build the list. So you only pay for the wargear the unit/list ACTUALLY has after it's built, not what it doesn't have. or what it had before it was built. "Simply add up the points values of all the models and weapons in your army, and make sure the total does not exceed the agreed limit for the game" pg 214 BRB

umm. no. You only pay for what the unit has after it's put together. You take the unit, give it the wargear, then pay for what wargear it has. A model that comes with a weapon, like a boltgun, that can then replace it with another weapon. You only pay when the unit is finally built. So it doesn't have a boltgun, so you don't pay for it.

GG has two leagues on wednesday, casual and tournament. This month is just casual for 8th edition. Someone, khan I think, mentioned starting a 40k league at last nights OF/wow. you can ask for a PUG at of/wow and people will respond. Redcastle used to have a narrative league, haven't heard of it restarting. I've heard good things about Dice Age's league. The GW gamestore has been dry for play.

Long fangs.. It's all about the Long fangs.

Has anyone found a reliable list generator?

Ok so. Zorcan and myself played our first match. Do I delete my old fungis amongis team and redo it and then let you know the results or what do I do?

oh oh.. This is a good one. If you put an infantry model up to the 2nd story/3rd level, it can't be charged by monsters unless they can fly. LOL. Had a game Saturday against tyranids, and dropped into his backfield on 3rd turn. My sorcerer with jump pack ended up being the lone survivor and just stood up there smiting the biovores to their doom with 3 MC's on the bottom floor trying to shoot me off the wall.

you mean a cover save bonus. Because they would still get a save unless the 7+ popped up. and you can allocate the wound to a model in terrain and eligible for a cover save bonus even with other models in the unit still partially inside the terrain and that model will gain a cover save bonus as long as all the models in the unit are wholly or partially on/in the terrain. Unless they are a unit/model type that requires a 50% obscurement in which case you would then have to check for 50% obscurement on that one model from the one shooting model. For that one attack resolution.

yep. but the cover save remains the same, it's the other stuff that gains modification. Stuff like, any units advancing/charging through subtract 2" from their movement/charge distance halved, etc etc.

The resolving of the attack is done one attack at a time. Before any one model that has a wound allocated to it can gain the cover save bonus for it's saving throw, first the whole unit must qualify as being wholly or partially in cover, then that specific model must be wholly in cover before the model can add the cover save bonus to it's saving throw.

Technically true, also technically not true. If you take a piece of terrain and add a full 4 walls to it, then vehicles can't breach the walls they have to move around them. But if you build a piece of terrain that has walls only on 2 or 3 sides but is still on a full base that the vehicle can fully fit into and with a gap in the walls that the vehicle can move into then the terrain will then give the vehicle a cover save bonus if the walls also give 50% obscurity to the vehicle.

I think the discussion is valid. That is, the discussion as a discussion has it's own validity. The rules clarifications alone have merit.

I mentioned this bit in my original post. You could say that a hill isn't a hill, it's terrain and therefore gives a cover save. That's fine and viable. But when you add the 50% obscurity to it a hill, shaped like a hill, doesn't work. If you wanted the additional 50% obscurity you would have to build stuff onto it that gives something on the terrain/hill construct obscurity. In fact, having a bunch of hills all over the table and calling them terrainothills would be one of the easiest ways of ensuring infantry only cover, because only infantry would get cover from it. Unless you arranged some of it to block line of side big enough for vehicles/monsters.