pretre Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 What you need to know Codexes?Didn’t you hear? New codexes are coming soon! If you’ve been familiar with Warhammer 40,000 for a while, the concept will be familiar to you, but for those of you just joining us, a codex is a book dedicated to a specific faction within Warhammer 40,000 – the definitive guide to that army. What’s in a codex?Each codex is a dedicated book about a single faction from the Warhammer 40,000 setting and game. They contain a wealth of inspirational background, artwork, heraldry and miniatures photography for that army, and because that faction is the sole focus of the book, they also contain far more detailed army-specific rules than we could hope to cover in the index books. What’s the difference between a codex and an index book?The indexes let you play with your Warhammer 40,000 army until the codex for your faction is released. The idea being that the rules for units in codexes eventually supersede the rules for them presented in the index books. Is my index invalid now?Not at all. Even with the pace we’re planning on releases these new codexes, it’s going to take well over a year to get to all of them. No single codex will cover all the contents of an index book, so you’ll get plenty of use out of all your indexes, don’t worry. I just bought Index: Imperium 1 – what should I do with it?You’ll want to keep hold of your index. Codex: Space Marines doesn’t include rules for playing with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch or Grey Knights armies, so you’ll still need Index: Imperium 1 to play with those. You’ll also need it for using some of the more unusual models such as the 30th Anniversary Space Marine, the Legion of the Damned and the Terminus Ultra Land Raider. What are the first of these new codexes?We’re kicking off with Space Marines. Then soon after, we’ll have Chaos Space Marines, Grey Knights and Death Guard… If I have a Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Space Wolves army, will I need to buy Codex: Space Marines to use my army?You don’t have to. Other Space Marines factions not covered in the new codex will continue to use all the datasheets, rules and points values in the index until their own codex is released. Rules for new models not covered in the index (like the upcoming Redemptor Dreadnought) will be available in the box with the model and matched play points for these units will be made available online. How long do I have to wait? I want them now!Not long! Codex: Space Marines lands in July, and then before Christmas, we’re aiming to have around 10 codexes available for you to choose from. Which factions are getting a codex??Every major faction will be getting a codex. As well as classic and well-known armies, you can expect to see factions that have never had their own codex before – starting with the Death Guard, available later in the year. Wait, did you say Death Guard?We did. The Plague Legions of Nurgle are getting their own book to represent the fact that their way of war is substantially different from that of most Traitor Legions, as is the range of miniatures you can choose to use in your Death Guard army. Is every army getting new models too?Some of them. Certain armies will get new miniatures alongside their new codex, and others won’t. Don’t worry though, our miniatures designers are working hard and we’ll get to all of you eventually – we’re well aware you all want new models for your chosen army. What’s in the codex that’s not in the index?Good question. Codexes, of course, allow us to focus on a faction in more detail than we could ever hope to in an index book. Alongside new expanded and updated background, you’ll find a wealth of rules content: army specific Stratagems, Relics, Warlord Traits, Tactical Objectives, psychic powers and more besides. We’ve listened carefully to what you liked in your codexes in the last edition of Warhammer 40,000, and what you wanted to see this time round, and we’re pretty confident we got it all in.Are the rules changing?Yes, many units’ rules in their codexes will alter from those in the indexes. Sometimes this is to better represent the miniatures and the background, sometimes to balance the game, and sometimes to better fit with the army’s new special rules in the codex itself. In all cases, these will then supersede the rules for that datasheet in the index book. Are the points changing?Yes, some units’ points for matched play games will change. This sometimes represents feedback from you guys playing games out there in the world, more playtesting, or sometimes because the unit now has new abilities or synergizes differently with new units and abilities in the codex. What format will the new codexes be in?These codexes will be available in a hardback format to match your new Warhammer 40,000 book. Will they cover units from Forge World?They won’t, but there will be other books on the way from Forge World that will cover those units, in a similar style to their previous Imperial Armour books. Can I combine units from the index and a codex into one army?The datasheets in the new codexes overwrite the same datasheets in the index books. You can certainly use units with updated datasheets alongside units from the index that have yet to be updated. Once a unit has been covered in the codex though, we assume you’re using the latest version. Can I choose to use the rules and/or points for units from my index instead of the new ones in the codex once released?In your own games, if you and your opponent agree, you can, of course, play with whatever rules you like. In all future publications and official events though, it will be assumed that you’re using the most recent rules and Datasheets. It will also be assumed that you’re using the most up to date points for matched play, in this case, those included in the codex. Where can I send feedback/questions about index books or codexes?Feedback from you guys out in the gaming world helped shape the new edition into the best Warhammer 40,000 ever, and we’re committed to continue improving the game, even now. If you have any thoughts, questions or feedback on any of our books, let us know on the Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page. Will there be limited editions for the new codexes?There will be a range of format options for all codexes, both for gamers, who just want a copy of every book, and for diehard fans of that army who want a collector’s edition of their chosen faction’s codex. When can I use the new codexes in stores, events or tournaments?As always for this type of thing, check with your store or event organiser. Read more about these new codexes here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 So we know the first four. I wonder what the next six are going to be. 5. Eldar/Ynnari 6. Imperial Guard 7. Orks 8. Something power armor 9. Dark Eldar/Ynnari 10. Something chaos. That would be my guess for order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happycamper Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Hopefully bloodangels ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 "Wait, did you say Death Guard?We did. The Plague Legions of Nurgle are getting their own book to represent the fact that their way of war is substantially different from that of most Traitor Legions, as is the range of miniatures you can choose to use in your Death Guard army. " Been list building for the DG the past few days,,indeed they are different than most any marine list(Chaos or imp) .Footslogging plus buff and nerf casting,army wide resiliance save with regrowing units.Very much in the vein of Death AoS armies in ,im liking it very much though as this will present some great challenges for both DG players and their opponents:) Oh and the easy and cheap summoning of fodder units,,theres that too.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Please tell me you're going to come out with a Droid Codex and not force me to consider a iPiss for interactive codex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, Romans832 said: Please tell me you're going to come out with a Droid Codex and not force me to consider a iPiss for interactive codex I don't think that is likely. The Apple marketplace offers better IP protections. But I have been wrong before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Sugarlessllama said: I don't think that is likely. The Apple marketplace offers better IP protections. But I have been wrong before. IP Protections = " Intellectual property (IP) refers to creations of the intellect for which a monopoly is assigned to designated owners by law. ... Artistic works including music and literature, as well as discoveries, inventions, words, phrases, symbols, and designs can all be protected as intellectual property." Ah, very interesting... Though aren't both ripe with spinoffs of other apps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 16 hours ago, Romans832 said: IP Protections = " Intellectual property (IP) refers to creations of the intellect for which a monopoly is assigned to designated owners by law. ... Artistic works including music and literature, as well as discoveries, inventions, words, phrases, symbols, and designs can all be protected as intellectual property." Ah, very interesting... Though aren't both ripe with spinoffs of other apps? It has more to do with the lack of DRM on Android devices. I know that this has been a problem for many webcomic artists, who have their sites accessed by Android apps that bypass the ad stream of the comic creator in lieu of the ad stream for the app author. This thereby monetizes the webcomic on behalf of the app author rather than the webcomic artist. The artist is in effect robbed by the Android app. Then there is just plain ol' piracy. Since the Apple App store allows for more restrictions at the behest of the app authors, and is more aggressive about policing IP infringement on behalf of content creators, I would think GW would maintain the Apple iStore as their preferred digital distribution medium. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Sugarlessllama said: It has more to do with the lack of DRM on Android devices. I know that this has been a problem for many webcomic artists, who have their sites accessed by Android apps that bypass the ad stream of the comic creator in lieu of the ad stream for the app author. This thereby monetizes the webcomic on behalf of the app author rather than the webcomic artist. The artist is in effect robbed by the Android app. Then there is just plain ol' piracy. Since the Apple App store allows for more restrictions at the behest of the app authors, and is more aggressive about policing IP infringement on behalf of content creators, I would think GW would maintain the Apple iStore as their preferred digital distribution medium. That's too bad, the world isn't owned by Apple. I have no wish to run multiple platforms beyond what I already "have to" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, Romans832 said: That's too bad, the world isn't owned by Apple. I have no wish to run multiple platforms beyond what I already "have to" I am not saying that the world is owned by Apple. However, Apple has shown a willingness to go to bat on behalf of content creators who don't like their work being stolen. Google made the conscious choice the leave content creators (many of whom have less money than the app developers who sometimes rob them) on their own when it comes to protecting their work. That has consequences for the consumer. In this case, it means that the preferred digital distribution chain for GW is going to be Apple. I am not an Apple fan boy. However, I do have friends who depend on ad revenue from their webcomics to put food on the table. And they have had their webcomics stolen via Android apps. And so, I will stand with content creators all day, every day. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romans832 Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Makes perfect sense. Thank you for that insight. From a security perspective I don't like ads, they're laced with drive bys leaving many of my staff with virus' or thinking they have them. It has been a nightmare trying to explain to people that ads are not monitored for content. There has to be a healthy balance, I just don't know what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Damn it. Really shouldnt have bought the Index then and just waited for codex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 15 minutes ago, generalripphook said: Damn it. Really shouldnt have bought the Index then and just waited for codex. I mean, you're out $25 and it allows you to play for however long until you get the new book. It's not that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, generalripphook said: Damn it. Really shouldnt have bought the Index then and just waited for codex. depends... I'm excited to have a full set including forge world kinda frozen in time. This will be a great intro to this scale of gaming and I was able to obtain all of it every last one for less than 200. Edition changes are a thing so glad to have a full set to start people in then transition to current rules whatever they may be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 hours ago, generalripphook said: Damn it. Really shouldnt have bought the Index then and just waited for codex. Also the indexes will have the rules for niche models (like the 30 year special edition marine) that won't be in the codex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 An index plus new codex is the same price as a single old codex, so you're not really losing anything.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purajh Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 6 hours ago, Dusldorf said: An index plus new codex is the same price as a single old codex, so you're not really losing anything.... Are we assuming the new codex will be $25.00 or have prices been leaked somewhere. I figured with the hardback they we going back up to $50.00 per codex again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusldorf Posted July 7, 2017 Report Share Posted July 7, 2017 32 minutes ago, Purajh said: Are we assuming the new codex will be $25.00 or have prices been leaked somewhere. I figured with the hardback they we going back up to $50.00 per codex again. Someone with inside info told me $25 but they could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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