fluger Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 I feel like tankbustas might be overlooked as a choice. Need to proxy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, fluger said: I feel like tankbustas might be overlooked as a choice. Need to proxy... They are good just expensive. They are a 5pt ork with a 12pt gun and while great, just a rad high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Lyraeus said: Bikers don't get benefits from the grots and neither do Mek Gunz. The first is expensive the latter dies easily to most meta options thus giving up ITC points for kill and kill more. Lootas are not broken but are gate keeper units. They can do good but take A LOT of CP to work, as stated 1-5 CP a turn in a faction thst may get one CP back a turn IF they do some shenanigans like I do. What makes lootas the better choice is two things: 1) consistency in damage. Being 2 damage in shooting is HUGE as a few saves can drop vehicles down a ton. 2) stratagem support. Shooting twice, shields and always a 5+ to hit and proc dakka is vital but expensive and limited. Lootas otherwise die so easily especially if you catch them with out shields near I didnt say it worked on them. I just said they arent the only firebase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: I didnt say it worked on them. I just said they arent the only firebase. Everything else is too expensive or too easy to kill. Too many things detract from anything not loota. It's possible but not optimal. Lootas are still not perfect but that's great. Orks shouldn't have perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Lyraeus said: Everything else is too expensive or too easy to kill. Too many things detract from anything not loota. It's possible but not optimal. Lootas are still not perfect but that's great. Orks shouldn't have perfect Well, ill take lootaz for darn sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 51 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Well, ill take lootaz for darn sure. I am actually testing a idea of taking Triple Shokk Attack Gun Big Mek's instead of lootas. One specifically being the Warlord with the Da Shiny Gubbinz Shokk Attack Gun and Big Killa Boss. Make that a Supreme Command Detachment that is a Dredd Waaagh so they can get a shoot twice strat... Then bring a small 15 man unit of lootas to distract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Lyraeus said: I am actually testing a idea of taking Triple Shokk Attack Gun Big Mek's instead of lootas. One specifically being the Warlord with the Da Shiny Gubbinz Shokk Attack Gun and Big Killa Boss. Make that a Supreme Command Detachment that is a Dredd Waaagh so they can get a shoot twice strat... Then bring a small 15 man unit of lootas to distract 15 isnt small! Hehe. Thats what i am taking. But I also am taking Traktor Kannons. Im trying them because there are units w absurd to-hit penalties. Absurd. I fought an eldar autarch that made itself -3 to hit. Couldnt touch him w my Tau. He was just a wreckin ball. Until Altaioc go away, I want ways to zap them. being unable to stop a lone Autarch was so dumb. Needing 7's to hit. Lame. Orks would hit on better but auto hitting would make me a lot happier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Lord Hanaur said: 15 isnt small! Hehe. Thats what i am taking. But I also am taking Traktor Kannons. Im trying them because there are units w absurd to-hit penalties. Absurd. I fought an eldar autarch that made itself -3 to hit. Couldnt touch him w my Tau. He was just a wreckin ball. Until Altaioc go away, I want ways to zap them. being unable to stop a lone Autarch was so dumb. Needing 7's to hit. Lame. Orks would hit on better but auto hitting would make me a lot happier Eh you always hit on sixes and always have more dakka. Just don't shoot wave serpents. Never worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Lyraeus said: Eh you always hit on sixes and always have more dakka. Just don't shoot wave serpents. Never worth it I mean... i get what you are saying, but its worth it when you dont gotta roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 LVO sent me a letter saying my list was "done wrong". Then, even though I didn't change it at all, I got an email saying it was done right, within like 8 hours. By the time I saw the first email the second email was already to me. How bizarre is that? Did that happen to anyone else? I just followed their little video and did the battlescribe option. Somehow I knew they would have issues with this many lists and this format. Hopefully its resolved but i think I'll bring that letter along with me just in case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Hmmm I didn’t get anything back on mine and I uploaded a while ago...maybe they just sent the second email because they made a mistake? I’m assuming if I don’t hear from them I’ll be good. I just copy/pasted from battlescribe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 Obviously your list is a filthy pile of cheating, but then the bribery check cleared. 😁 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 The emperor protects! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 The Mordian forges are working around the clock for the next week or so...gotta stay on target....stay on target... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Ish said: Obviously your list is a filthy pile of cheating, but then the bribery check cleared. 😁 Makes sense. Because Frankie said in his message that my list was over by 258 points...which is strange since that is EXACTLY the number of points my 3rd Detachment was. That leads me to thing they didn't look very closely at first. Hehehe. Also means, if i had to guess, that the program read the line that says 2K and perhaps then read the 258 separately. At least that's the only programming error I can think of that would make him say that (but since its a cut and paste from Battlescribe, that would also seem odd). The most likely scenario is that it's just human error and they pulled some lists just to make sure, and Frankie was so tired of looking at lists that he misread it. Either way the whole thing was resolved before i ever became aware of any of this, so i didn't have to do a thing! hooray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jason said: The Mordian forges are working around the clock for the next week or so...gotta stay on target....stay on target... Looks pretty darn cool. Mine will of course not look as cool. I am not an expert painter. All I can assure anyone is that the models will be technically legal and show that effort, not expertise, was applied. 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Jason said: The Mordian forges are working around the clock for the next week or so...gotta stay on target....stay on target... Ohhh pretty things I get to blow up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Lord Hanaur said: Makes sense. Because Frankie said in his message that my list was over by 258 points...which is strange since that is EXACTLY the number of points my 3rd Detachment was. That leads me to thing they didn't look very closely at first. Hehehe. Also means, if i had to guess, that the program read the line that says 2K and perhaps then read the 258 separately. At least that's the only programming error I can think of that would make him say that (but since its a cut and paste from Battlescribe, that would also seem odd). The most likely scenario is that it's just human error and they pulled some lists just to make sure, and Frankie was so tired of looking at lists that he misread it. Either way the whole thing was resolved before i ever became aware of any of this, so i didn't have to do a thing! hooray. They may be doing it by program... Or by people. I know Chapter Tactics Falcon has been going through the lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 11 hours ago, Lyraeus said: They may be doing it by program... Or by people. I know Chapter Tactics Falcon has been going through the lists. What is Chapter Tactics Falcon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 hours ago, Lord Hanaur said: What is Chapter Tactics Falcon? Chapter Tactics is a podcast and Falcon is one of the often on hosts who speak a lot stats in 40k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Lyraeus said: Chapter Tactics is a podcast and Falcon is one of the often on hosts who speak a lot stats in 40k Is he the https://www.40kstats.com guy? I don't play competitively, but that's still pretty interesting stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, andy said: Is he the https://www.40kstats.com guy? I don't play competitively, but that's still pretty interesting stuff... Yup! That's the guy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Lyraeus said: Chapter Tactics is a podcast and Falcon is one of the often on hosts who speak a lot stats in 40k Podcasts. Honestly most of them are bad. But out of curiosity, where ARE the stats on LVO lists? They went to such trouble to be able to gather them that I am somewhat interested in looking at them. How does one access that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 That's the kind of data accumulation needed to seriously balance the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, Lord Hanaur said: Podcasts. Honestly most of them are bad. But out of curiosity, where ARE the stats on LVO lists? They went to such trouble to be able to gather them that I am somewhat interested in looking at them. How does one access that? Huh, OK then. I personally enjoy BIFPOD and Best General Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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