Threejacks Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Since ill be plopping down a new Undead army this week I`ll be using some units that are new to me such as flyers and these Hexwraiths cavalry. Ill be using Varghiest`s and I notice that they have Frenzy and can fly...when figuring the max potential charge range for frenzy purposes do you use the 10" charge fly range?..or the ground speed of 6"? And for Hexwraiths,when they use their Spectral Hunters rule,are those attacks considered shooting attacks? it states they are distributed as shooting but not that they are shooting attacks..or are they melee attacks?....mainly for running through war machines and not knowing what toughness to use. thnx:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 You use the 10" move for the varghiests when determining whether or not they can charge something. As for the hexwraiths, I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 hexwraiths are a special attack that are distributed as shooting. following the distributed as shooting rules but they aren't considered melee or shooting specifically, they are a special attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 yea its 10". but not terrible because flying units are skirmishes so you can just face them away from things. as for spectral hunters, thats the attack when they run through you? its similar to bombs and rocks i think. they are not done during the shooting phase so technically its not a shooting attack(or melee) but distributed as if it were a shooting attack. ill wait for a VC player though... not 100% sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Drak was the VC player. Drak he is asking if a warmachine would use the WM's toughness or its crew's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 yea its 10". but not terrible because flying units are skirmishes so you can just face them away from things. as for spectral hunters, thats the attack when they run through you? its similar to bombs and rocks i think. they are not done during the shooting phase so technically its not a shooting attack(or melee) but distributed as if it were a shooting attack. ill wait for a VC player though... not 100% sure Ahh yeah,thnx for the tip on Skirmishers..im actually using skirmishers for the first time as well,heh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Was just doing some checking around on the web about this Hexwraith vs War machine thing..seems to be a fair amount of split opinions on the issue. I personally would lean more toward using the WM`s Toughness as its the closest to the attacks description being "Distributed as per Shooting".Now it certainly doesn't define it as a shooting attack but with how WM`s work having all "Shooting attacks" hit the machines Toughness while all Melee attacks hit the Crew,I think it seems the most logical to say that something that distributes as a shooting attack will use the WM`s toughness,simply because you cant distribute a shooting attack wound to the crews toughness in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 No help from the FAQ's. And reading Spectral Hunt and the Warmachines in the BRB I can see it go either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drak Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 for most warmachines I would think using the 'distribute as shooting' aspect of the special rule you use the warmachines toughness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 why bother running through the WM. I would think the wraiths would have an easy time killing them in melee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted October 20, 2014 Report Share Posted October 20, 2014 why bother running through the WM. I would think the wraiths would have an easy time killing them in melee. That's a fact; however, there may be times when you don't want to dedicate them to a round of combat with a war machine and by moving through the war machine sets up the charge you are wanting them to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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