Xavier319 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hey all! Been playing this list a lot lately, and it does really well. It tends to overwhelm opponents, and presents the problem of there being no 'central' unit for the enemy to focus on. The Mek Gunz being the only one really, but there are only certain things that can tackle them. They Tend to be in the middle of the army, so assaulting them is difficult at best, which is their one real weakness. What do you guys think of this both as an OFCC list and as an overall list? And yes, every vehicle in the army is scratch built, as per usual. OFCC Ork Army – 2000 HQ – 135 Warboss – 130 (go in Big Trakk) Mega Armor/Lucky Stikk/Boss Pole Elites – 355 Kommandoz (10) – 150 Big Shoota (2)/Nob/Power Klaw/Boss Pole Mega Nobz (3) – 125 (go in Mekboy Junkka) Boss Pole Tank Bustas (5) – 80 Bomb Squiggs (3) Trukk – 35 (dedicated Transport for Tank Bustas) Rokkit Launcha/Reinfored Ram Troops – 622 Slugga Boyz (12) – 160 ‘Ard Armor/Nob/Power Klaw/Boss Pole Trukk – 35 (dedicated transport for ‘Ard Boyz) Rokkit Launcha/Reinforced Ram Slugga Boyz (10) – 135 (go in Big Trakk with Warboss) ‘Ard Armor/Nob/Power Klaw Slugga Boyz (10) – 105 (go in Warkopta) Rokkit LaunchaNob/Power Klaw/Boss Pole Slugga Boyz (12) – 117 Rokkit Launcha/Nob/Power Klaw/Boss Pole Trukk – 35 (dedicated Transport for Slugga Boyz) Rokkit Launcha/Reinforced Ram Fast Attack – 125 Warkopta – 65 Skorcha Grot Bomb Launcher – 35 Warbuggy – 25 Twin-Linked Rokkit Launcha Heavy Support – 418 Lootaz (11) – 154 Mekboy Big Trakk – 60 Boarding Plank/Skorcha Mek Gunz (5) – 192 Kustom Mega-Kannonz (5)/Extra Crew (9)/Ammo Runtz (5) Great WAAAGH! HQ – 255 Big Mek – 150 (goes with Mek Gunz) Mega Armor/Supa Kustom Force Field Great WAAAGH! Elites – 105 Mekboy Junkka – 105 Skorcha/Reinforced Ram/Supa-Skorcha/’Eavy Plates Great WAAAGH! Troops – 35 Gretchin – 35 Great WAAAGH! Heavy Support – 60 Looted Wagon – 72 Killkannon/Skorcha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Words. Points. More words. Let's see the scratch built Warkopta! Looks like a fun list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Looks fine for ofcc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Bonus points for Warkopta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I'm interested to hear how the mek gunz do for you. I'm planning on running them as they seem to be pretty potent on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Hey, Xavier, I've been trying to PM you for a while. You didn't submit your list to the LRC, you attached a paper about D&D instead of a list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 ... i did what? HA. dumb me, sorry! That's my OFCC list. i'll send it again. i'm an idiot. enjoy the D&D paper. as for the kannons, they work amazing. just keep them out of assault. most people avoid them like the plague since they are so hard to kill with shooting. and the kannons are brutal against most effective lists. five plasma cannons that are str 8 (!) are amazing. they do so much damage. List resent to the email Fluger. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Kannons are good. I like the list too. It's real fast. I always am concerned with those small ork units though. they just dont hit hard enough usually on their own. Average dedicated melee units tend to win against them. I'd make them Ard Boyz if they are going to be in 12's Love the Kommandos. just love those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I'd make them Ard Boyz if they are going to be in 12's They ARE 'Ard Boyz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 as for the kannons, they work amazing. just keep them out of assault. most people avoid them like the plague since they are so hard to kill with shooting. and the kannons are brutal against most effective lists. five plasma cannons that are str 8 (!) are amazing. they do so much damage. Yeah, little chance of them getting assaulted when surrounded by my 'Orde. Conceptually, they looked really powerful, but I like to hear about actual use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 wait it looks liike their Nobz are. Maybe IM reading the list wrong? I think it says the Nob has the Ard armor, not the shoota boyz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 wait it looks liike their Nobz are. Maybe IM reading the list wrong? I think it says the Nob has the Ard armor, not the shoota boyz. It is tricky to read, but the points are clearly for 'Ard Boyz. 120 pts base + 10 for Nob, 25 for PK, 5 for BP = 160 pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Sorry, i Use a short-hand and i'm too lazy to re-do it. I'll fix that next time I post a list. i WISH you could take 'ard armor just on nobz still. :( Want me to tell some mek gunz stories here, let you know how they've done on the table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Yes, I like Mek Gun stories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted May 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 let's see.. buried in the middle of the army, it's nearly impossible to actually get to them, so they have yet to be assaulted. In addition, with the rest of the army barreling down the board at the opponent, they are rarely ever shot at, mostly because there are few units that can actually make that shooting count. With proper grot placement, they will mostly just be killing Tough 7 4++ save grotz, which just feels.. pointless. With how it's set up, including the gunz, you have to kill seven models in order to force a test at Ld 8, making leadership manipulation difficult. I did have them delayed by a farseer once using dominate to cause them to miss a shooting phase. Their shooting is incredibly punishing, and with five ammo runtz, I can choose to re-roll at the over-heat stage, or after i actually roll the scatter, making them FAR more reliable than people are expecting out of ork shooting. Str 8 means they can anti-tank, they can anti-MEQ, anti-MC, or whatever, and they double a lot of things out. Move and shoot (while gamey and silly) is a huge boon, and they cant stand and shoot anyway. That and people always roll their eyes when the mek adds his kustom-megablasta to the volley (though 5's to hit is still bad). As for specific stories.. they are brutal to all kinds of crisis suits. I've had them (with decent scatter) wipe out almost two units of suits in one firing phase, since every shot doubles them out. I've had them take out everything short of a land-raider, and they are board control. The mek's KFF protects my tanks, and the gunz. People are (rightfully so) afraid of that many powerful blasts, so it restricts and controls movement and board placement. And if they DO shoot at your gunz, it's shooting that's not going at your boyz. and in a pinch, the mega mek can do some work in CC if he has to (though I wouldn't advise it). Best thing they've ever done so far was one game they worked in tandem with my lootaz. The lootaz hulled out a tank, and the kannons finished off what was inside. this happened four turns in a row, like clockwork. Devastating against MEQ. Also by the nature of blasts, you can use targeting shenanigans to target tanks or units you CAN see in order to hit stuff hiding behind it with the blast template. Sorry for the wall of text! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 So, since the Big Mek is S&P due to the Mega Armor, you're saying that would work for the mek gunz too? Hmmmm... I like the wall o' grots as ablative wounds, I'm just not sure that's an investment I want to make... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I own a million grotz! I'm not quite understanding how they are avoiding assaults? It seems you'd roll up, kill their transports and assault what comes out, possibly flaminating a clear path for things to pas through? It's not as if they are being shy and holding back! I'd have to see that in action I guess. It SEEMS like it does what my army does: Blockade the real threats and keep the enemy in front of them w Gretchen and then smash, close ranks and repeat. BTW that makes me think that you should break the Gretchen into three units. that way ONE LD check cant take them all out. Food for thought. it hurts in KP missions but those are not as common as the other mission types. In any event it looks effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 well you see, the grotz are part of the gun unit. and yes, the mek having S&P gives it to the unit, unlike relentless. the vehicles actually block for the mek gunz. the gunz follow the transports, giving the 4++ to the tanks for a turn or two to prevent me from getting alpha struck off the table. then everything splits up, and the boys all dehorse and engage. the massive unit of grotz and gunz do their thing, proving fire support, killing key targets and claiming objectives. I have a TON of grotz myself, so it doesnt bother me, i just had 'em lying around. I also built the gunz from scratch, so I didnt have to drop the 46 bucks or whatever on each of the five kannons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 well you see, the grotz are part of the gun unit. and yes, the mek having S&P gives it to the unit, unlike relentless. This sounds so wrong, but I really can't find rules against it. Good find. After re-reading it, seems like artillery don't actually have any rules that make them unable to move and fire, barring that most artillery are heavy weapons. Making an artillery unit relentless should be enough to allow moving and firing (like via endurance). This matters a bunch with those Eldar D weapons and with any heavy weapon units (like lootas) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I also built the gunz from scratch, so I didnt have to drop the 46 bucks or whatever on each of the five kannons. I bought 1. It's a neat kit, but certainly not worth buying more than 1. I mostly wanted to be sure that future creations were close enough to the right size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Thanks! Yeah, I noticed it was a feature of S&P, but NOT relentless... and i did a double, then a triple take. Then i looked it up again. Then i re-read it. And then i did it. I haven't looked back. We are in the era of 10 scatter lasers on ten bikes and gargantuan wraith knights and d-scythes, so I don't feel bad. I'm not saying any of that stuff is "unfair" or "overpowered" or whatever, I'm just saying, I'm gonna take what I can get, and model the guns to be on little motorized trukks, so it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier319 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I posted a build log in the artificer's forge, for people interested in seeing my tank and such take shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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