white_devil

If another game (not called magic the gathering) had as big of a local/tournament scene and I had a bunch of buddies going to the national events to get drunk *cough cough* I mean PLAY it... Then I'd drop 40k too. :D

Well, skitarii and khorne daemonkin certainly are not even close to on the same level as eldar. Even if D is the new normal I stand by my above statement.

Being an attendee of national tournaments for several years I used to be of the camp that nothing should be changed and comp in all forms was bogus. However, after GW started to write shoddier and shoddier rules with the excuse that they don't do tournaments anymore and people should simply figure it out themselves, I changed my mind. Its only logical that if a system is not designed to be used for tournaments, then it must be modified in some way to be used as such. Its a happy side effect that this also provides a baseline of standardization for friendly games also. Start here, and modify as you see fit.

What was the ork list?

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/05/2015-itc-mid-season-update-poll/ The poll is much better worded this time. Vote now!

https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/05/2015-itc-mid-season-update-poll/ The poll is much better worded this time. Vote now!

I too will be in the wilderness. Rock Climbing tho. I wouldn't mind playing on a later date however.

It's a shame really. With all the aspect buffs this would have been a good (albeit very strong) codex. Without the inclusion of the ~100pt undercosted WK and scatterlaser spam of course. That just takes it much too far. Possibly the double D reroll jink flyer too. To the OP: By current ITC rules it's 0-1 LoW anyway so most events will see 1 WK. Or none, since some events still ban them outright. Though I expect those will be fewer and fewer. Dsythes are amazing, spamming them will probably not earn you friends in this environment. However, I will never refuse to play someone with a competitive tournament-style army. So you can add me to the "will play you" list. Even if you did duck me before LVO we will play one day! *Shakes fist menacingly...*

GW has stated numerous times that they do not care for tournaments and they do not write rules for them. Their excuse for the shoddy rules are that players should just "police themselves". Because it's not like people have differing opinions on what's ok and what's not... 7th edition as written is unplayable at tournaments. It must be altered/comped in some way. Which is what the ITC is trying to do. You may not agree with what limitations they implement, but at least they poll the community and legitimately try and make it work. Heck, enough ppl were vocal about one or two things on the latest poll that they announced they would do a new one after BAO. As pretre mentioned, the overwhelming majority are satisfied with the ITC events they attend. Speaking personally, LVO is the best tournament I've attended in quite awhile. And I've been playing this game since second edition, and attending events since 3rd.

Sounds like a fun event. Does it usually sell out or no?

Ha. That would be funny. But no, it's run "with" not "from".

Already committed to the "Run With the Fuzz" 5k that day with some co-workers. http://www.funwiththefuzz5k.com/ Oh well. Have fun guys.

You all have been PM'ed.

I'm only interested in the bikes to orkify for my speed freaks. Rest of the marines can be had by whomever :)

Looking to buy (for decently cheap) any Ork Warbikers. Old and new. As well as Assault on Black Reach DeffKoptas. Failing that, any sm/csm bikes will do. These are a lower priority however. I have some pro painted Daemonettes, Pink Horrors, and Blood Crushers if your interested in trade instead of cash.

Think we have mods around here to delete this sort of thing... ;)

Sold my DIY army, so the building of the Ork Speed Freaks has begun! Looking to buy (for decently cheap) any Ork Warbikers. Old and new. As well as Assault on Black Reach DeffKoptas. Failing that, any sm/csm bikes will do. Also, orky bits to stick on them would be nice if anyone has some. Shootas, big shootas, and dakka guns as well. I have some pro painted Daemonettes, Pink Horrors, and Blood Crushers if your interested in trade instead of cash. I might be convinced to part with my Forge World Quad Launchers (Thudd Guns). Don't use em much anymore.

Pm'ed.

Soooo does this mean another car is going?

Pics: 2 of the Forge World Converted Dreadnoughts: Juggernaughts/Thunder Wolves Marine: HQ/Tech HQ: Winged HQ (Mephiston/Dante/Chaos Lord/Sorcerer/etc Death Company/Jump Pack Veterans/Raptors (hand sculpted angel wings): Razorbacks with each type of turret: Some of the Marines: More Marines: A few more:

So LVO has come and gone, a bit of bad luck and not enough prep caused me to be unable to repeat my GT portion win from last year. Anyway, time to build a fun to play army. I've decided on Ork Speed Freaks, particularly mass bikers. So I'm looking for cash or Ork Warbikes. Failing that, any bikes will do. Orks like to loot after all. While I am willing to buy for cheap, and I do mean CHEAP, I have the following to trade: DIY. Army: This army is a DIY Space Marine Chapter I have named the "Red Templars". I first thought of doing my own Chapter when I was a poor college student and decided that a "counts as" chapter that could be used as several different space marine armies would not only be fluffy, but a smart monetary decision. I have used this army as Blood Angels, Chaos Space Marines, Space Marines, and Space Wolves. They are converted to be just far enough out there that they could be more radical loyalist space marines, or recently fallen to chaos like the Blood Gorgons. Most of the models are professionally painted to a tabletop or above standard by Red Dragon Painting in the UK, others to a table top quality by an old buddy who was a Golden Daemon winner back in the day. Many models are heavily converted/scultped. This is truly a unique army. I have decided however, that it's time for change. With a new baby on the way I have no money to buy a new army. But I was hoping to either trade these guys for a Tyranid army or sell em. HQ with wings HQ/Tech Marine * I simply say HQ here. Remember these are multi-purpose models so they can be a Librarian, Chapter Master, Chaplain, Sorceror, Chaos Lord, or whatever you want. I regularly use the first guy as Mephiston/Dante/Sanguinor* 6x HQ/Thunder Wolf Marines *Converted Marines mounted on Blood Crushers. Mix of storm shields, hammers, fists. Use them as Thunder Wolves or HQs riding Thunder Wolves. Space Marines/CSM Squads (40 or so marines) *These guys are converted from a mix of space marine, blood angel, space wolf, csm, and chaos warrior bits. There are 4 with plasma guns, 4 with lascannons, 10 with ccw/bolt pistol, 4-5 Sergeant models (4 powerfists), many have bolter, bolt pistol, and ccw (remember multi purpose models). I can provide extra boltgun bits if you would like the ccw/pistol marines to be outfitted. 4x rhino/razors *These have been built with a detachable roof hatch that come with twin heavy bolters, lascannon/twin plasma, or a flat rhino hatch.* Rhino (command/alt paint scheme) *This rhino has a slightly different paint scheme, I was using it as a command rhino* 16 Jump Pack/Raptors/Death Company/Veterans *One of the biggest highlight of the army. These guys all have hand sculpted Angel Wings that look amazing. 3 melta guns, 3 flamers, 2 leaders with power fists. They are currently mounted on 40mms bases but can easily be rebased* 4x Obliterators 3x Forge World Dreadnoughts *Converted from: One Night Lord pattern, one Thousand Son pattern, One Alpha Legion pattern. 2x twin autocannons. Magnetized to use the extra bits below. Extra Forge World Dreadnought Bits *Multi-melta, 2x chain weapons, painted twin lascannon, painted chain weapon. Even without the amazing conversion and paint work this army is over $1000 in retail product. With the professional painting and conversion/sculpting work I would value it much higher. ***If you want to buy it, make me an offer.*** OTHER HAVES: Cash. Again, I will only buy for very cheap. CHAOS DAEMONS 10x Painted Bloodletters (Metal Axe Version, much cooler imo) Old School Bloodletter command NIB (very rare) DARK ELDAR: 10x new Kabalite Warriors NoS 8-10x Sprues of Previous Editions Kabalite Warriors 3x Metal Kabalite Warrior with Dark Lance 1x Dark Lance Bit (metal) SPACE MARINES: 1x Captain Tycho NIB 2x Flamestorm Cannon bits 1x Older Model Rhino (Painted) GK Storm Bolter Arms 2 Land Speeders Misc: CSM Codex Chaos Daemon Codex IG Heavy Weapon Bits Metal Warhammer Egrimm Van Horstmann on Dragon (missing wings) Wood Elf Dryad bits Fantasy zombie/skeleton bits

Pics: 2 of the Forge World Converted Dreadnoughts: Juggernaughts/Thunder Wolves Marine: HQ/Tech HQ: Winged HQ (Mephiston/Dante/Chaos Lord/Sorcerer/etc Death Company/Jump Pack Veterans/Raptors (hand sculpted angel wings): Razorbacks with each type of turret: Some of the Marines: More Marines: A few more:

So LVO has come and gone, a bit of bad luck and not enough prep caused me to be unable to repeat my GT portion win from last year. Anyway, time to build a fun to play army. I've decided on Ork Speed Freaks, particularly mass bikers. So I'm looking for cash or Ork Warbikes. Failing that, any bikes will do. Orks like to loot after all. While I am willing to buy for cheap, and I do mean CHEAP, I have the following to trade: DIY. Army: This army is a DIY Space Marine Chapter I have named the "Red Templars". I first thought of doing my own Chapter when I was a poor college student and decided that a "counts as" chapter that could be used as several different space marine armies would not only be fluffy, but a smart monetary decision. I have used this army as Blood Angels, Chaos Space Marines, Space Marines, and Space Wolves. They are converted to be just far enough out there that they could be more radical loyalist space marines, or recently fallen to chaos like the Blood Gorgons. Most of the models are professionally painted to a tabletop or above standard by Red Dragon Painting in the UK, others to a table top quality by an old buddy who was a Golden Daemon winner back in the day. Many models are heavily converted/scultped. This is truly a unique army. I have decided however, that it's time for change. With a new baby on the way I have no money to buy a new army. But I was hoping to either trade these guys for a Tyranid army or sell em. HQ with wings HQ/Tech Marine * I simply say HQ here. Remember these are multi-purpose models so they can be a Librarian, Chapter Master, Chaplain, Sorceror, Chaos Lord, or whatever you want. I regularly use the first guy as Mephiston/Dante/Sanguinor* 6x HQ/Thunder Wolf Marines *Converted Marines mounted on Blood Crushers. Mix of storm shields, hammers, fists. Use them as Thunder Wolves or HQs riding Thunder Wolves. Space Marines/CSM Squads (40 or so marines) *These guys are converted from a mix of space marine, blood angel, space wolf, csm, and chaos warrior bits. There are 4 with plasma guns, 4 with lascannons, 10 with ccw/bolt pistol, 4-5 Sergeant models (4 powerfists), many have bolter, bolt pistol, and ccw (remember multi purpose models). I can provide extra boltgun bits if you would like the ccw/pistol marines to be outfitted. 4x rhino/razors *These have been built with a detachable roof hatch that come with twin heavy bolters, lascannon/twin plasma, or a flat rhino hatch.* Rhino (command/alt paint scheme) *This rhino has a slightly different paint scheme, I was using it as a command rhino* 16 Jump Pack/Raptors/Death Company/Veterans *One of the biggest highlight of the army. These guys all have hand sculpted Angel Wings that look amazing. 3 melta guns, 3 flamers, 2 leaders with power fists. They are currently mounted on 40mms bases but can easily be rebased* 4x Obliterators 3x Forge World Dreadnoughts *Converted from: One Night Lord pattern, one Thousand Son pattern, One Alpha Legion pattern. 2x twin autocannons. Magnetized to use the extra bits below. Extra Forge World Dreadnought Bits *Multi-melta, 2x chain weapons, painted twin lascannon, painted chain weapon. Even without the amazing conversion and paint work this army is over $1000 in retail product. With the professional painting and conversion/sculpting work I would value it much higher. ***If you want to buy it, make me an offer.*** OTHER HAVES: Cash. Again, I will only buy for very cheap. CHAOS DAEMONS 10x Painted Bloodletters (Metal Axe Version, much cooler imo) Old School Bloodletter command NIB (very rare) DARK ELDAR: 10x new Kabalite Warriors NoS 8-10x Sprues of Previous Editions Kabalite Warriors 3x Metal Kabalite Warrior with Dark Lance 1x Dark Lance Bit (metal) SPACE MARINES: 1x Captain Tycho NIB 2x Flamestorm Cannon bits 1x Older Model Rhino (Painted) GK Storm Bolter Arms 2 Land Speeders Misc: CSM Codex Chaos Daemon Codex IG Heavy Weapon Bits Metal Warhammer Egrimm Van Horstmann on Dragon (missing wings) Wood Elf Dryad bits Fantasy zombie/skeleton bits

Some ppl just call me "G" if I must have a nickname...

Ha. It's Gareth.