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@peter.cosgrove since we are not using beta rules does this beam we are not using the Tactical Reserves rule where you can't bri g in deep strike units till Turn 2? That's listed as a Beta Match Play rule in the Big FAQ 2

Sadly not I. The GT is this weekend at Guardian Games

I airbrushed the 3rd one. Sadly they are the Assault on Black Reach models so they are not wysiwyg.... Which annoys me but they are painted

Indubitably

Yup. Otherwise the stormboyz offer me ITC flexibility that the Deffkoptas don't. Since stormboyz are infantry you can go into buildings.

Interesting. Yea, I could see it. My point for the meganobz is to deal with high armor targets or steal objectives

They don't get full squads back are are too expensive. Any smart player knows to focus down one unit so it doesn't come back and thus preventing them from using the ability. False. Tyranids once again do separate things. You are trying to create a link where the only. Is mass bodies. Tyranids are more mobile. An Ork Boy or Grot only moves 5" and while we can Da Jump boys that requires openings left for us by our opponents which most won't do. Tyranids don't need that as they can race up the board and get in charge range easily. Tyranids also have a negative to hit unit while orks are just an invul and a meh FNP. Your hangup on the two factions will lead you to making tactical assumptions that will hurt you in the end. BTW, the reason I am so set on this, is because it's like saying Tau and Imperial Guard are similar when they are most definitely not.

Objec secured and its more painting for me with a 3rd as I have to paint their yellow with blue... Careful to leave some yellow showing as they looted them

Slow units and a lack of CP will hurt

... ... ... So last night I brought a unit back from near death, near my Wierdboy, jumped the unit so I could access the middle of the board and spread out to contest multiple objectives. Please show me an army that can do that other than orks? Grot shields are not similar to savior protocol as I spend a CP only Affects a single unit and only affects ranged attacks. It does a similar things sure but it's usability and versatility are vastly different. Differences between orks and tyranids? Huh, well let's take a stab at this. The first is a mono codex with no current allies, the second can take Genestealer Cult which gives access to Imperial Guard. Next, tyranids can launch Genestealers up to 52" in a single turn (given perfect roles but even then 47" is normal). Hormagaunts have a 6" pile in and 6" consolidation move. Ever seen 30 Hormagaunts wave across the board in 8th? I have watched it, really impressive. They have access to an amazing move blocking unit called a biovore where people purposefully miss so they can place a spore in front of units like. Knights or Big infantry blobs to restrict or outright block movement The two factions are nothing alike. Their only Similarity is they both can run horde. Cultists are expensive and while good their only saving grace is they are efficient. It's not about GW pushing anything as cultists have taken what, 3-4 nerf bat's so far. It's that players will seek out efficiency. For wide arcing statements like that, I recommend you back it with facts not personal opinion based off a few games with one faction or another.

Variety. They are also CP hungry so they can have issues later on.

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Orks) [36 PL, 668pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Clan Kultur: Bad Moons + HQ + Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts] Big Mek (Index) [5 PL, 79pts]: Choppa, Grot Oiler, Kustom Force Field + Troops + Gretchin [2 PL, 60pts]: 20x Gretchin Gretchin [2 PL, 60pts]: 20x Gretchin Boyz [11 PL, 152pts]: 2x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga . 20x Ork Boy W/ Shoota + Heavy Support + Lootas [13 PL, 255pts]: 15x Loota ++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Orks) [68 PL, -1CP, 1332pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Clan Kultur: Deathskulls Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Dread Waaaagh! + HQ + Big Mek W/ Shokk Attack Gun [4 PL, 84pts]: Da Souped-up Shokka, Grot Oiler, Shokk Attack Gun, Warlord Weirdboy [3 PL, 62pts] Warboss in Mega Armour (index) [7 PL, 120pts]: Power Klaw, Shoota + Troops + Boyz [11 PL, 237pts]: 3x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Killsaw, Kombi-Rokkit . 29x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Boyz [11 PL, 223pts]: 2x Tankbusta Bombs . Boss Nob: Killsaw, Kombi-Rokkit . 10x Ork Boy W/ Shoota . 17x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin Gretchin [1 PL, 30pts]: 10x Gretchin + Elites + Mad Dok Grotsnik [5 PL, 86pts] Meganobz [6 PL, 105pts] . Boss Meganob w/ PK: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw . Meganob W/ PK: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw . Meganob W/ PK: Kustom Shoota, Power Klaw Nob with Waaagh! Banner [4 PL, 77pts]: Kustom Shoota + Fast Attack + Deff Kopta [2 PL, 40pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Twin Big Shoota Deff Kopta [2 PL, 40pts] . DeffKopta: Bigbomm (Index), Twin Big Shoota Stormboyz [3 PL, 45pts]: 5x Stormboy + Heavy Support + Mek Gunz [2 PL, 31pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [2 PL, 31pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun Mek Gunz [2 PL, 31pts] . Gun: Smasha Gun ++ Total: [104 PL, -1CP, 2000pts] ++ The list I am considering for this weekends tournament at the Guardian Cup. Will see about tweaking some things to make it work as I have to work on the saws of my Mega nobz... Wysiwyg is painful but I can tweak to fit

I don't know about hard core. Thanks to Steven Pampreen I am looking at how to cure my CP issues.

Got room for Tau ^_^ If you pull the lvo list you will likely do very well. I am playing orks so I will just be trying to make all 6 turns. Sorry in advance to my opponents

One of my best games ever! The fact you don't get too upset with me spouting stats out or reminders helps a ton for me. Thank you so much for your patience with me!

Hmmm may suffer from ITC but it would be hilariously amount of fun (you will suffer on the primaries of ITC of holding something, though you could kill elite units pretty handily...) I might not be your best ITC opponent but oh well

Yup. Got my storm of silence ticket but I definitely don't expect to win that. We have the Guardian Cup this week (which I am furiously working to be ready for), yea, working on it

Running late

Dont forget your necrons. I will be there but my bases are driving me mad.

Yup. My goal is top 100 this year

Considering that these kits have a great value a few sheckles more is not a big deal.

Box. If you need some filler foam I have that.

Oh, so game.on?

Better get searching

Want to take me in this week? My orks would love the challenge ^_^