HeroZero Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 I Challenge you to write your own supplement, fluff or not. This is for an Experiment. Consider current rules and game environment. My take: Shadow Warriors: A Raven Guard Supplement All models in the primary detachment using thus supplement gain the following: The following models without a dedicated transport gain the Infiltrate USR - Tactical Squad - Assault Squad - Vanguard Veterans - Sternguard Veterans Any Model with access to the Heavy Weapons table may purchase a Sniper Rifle for +5 points. HQ Kavyaan Shrike: as Codex Space Marines. ShadowSeer Ariak 130 Librarian stat line Mastery Level 2 Force Staff, bolt pistol, Jump Pack. Telepathy Has Stealth USR. Cloak of the Raven: Grants 5++ invulnerable, and bearer cannot be targeted by precision shot. Claw Sergeant Kyarr Vanguard Veteran upgrade +65 pts Stats as Vanguard Veterans + 1 Attack Master Crafted Lightning Claws, Jump Pack Grants Hit and Run to Squad. Relics Overseer's lash: Power weapon, Strength as user, AP 5, Rending, Strike Down, *Bind * on a Succesfu hit, reduce hit models attacks by D3, this can reduce a characters attack profile to Zero. 50 points. Darkness Falls, Combi Weapon. May fire as a Master Crafted Bolter or use the following profile: Range 24, Assault 1, Large Blast.STR 1.AP -, Blind 30 points. Hunter's Spear: Str +1 Ap3. May be used as a ranged weapon with following profile: Range 8 Str X AP 3 , Assault 1. Poison 4+ 40 points Wings of Deliverance. Jump pack. Grants bearer : This unit gains Crusader USR, and may reroll all sweeping advance rolls. 35 points The Rook's Gambit. One use only. When in a Challenge the bearer may use this item. Roll a D6. On a 4+ the bearer causes instant Death with all attacks for this challenge. If this roll is failed, all attacks generated by the.opponent cause instant death for this challenge. 10 points The Raven's Eye: Auspex. When used this auspex reduces opponents cover save by -3. The bearer of this item ignores night fighting rules. 25 points. Warlord Traits 1. Warlord may choose table side, regardless of dce results. Opponent automatically determines which player gains first turn the Warlord.may not seize the initiative. .2.) Gain stealth USR 3.) Warlord rerolls all attacks vs any model chosen from chaos space marines, chaos daemons or any supplements from those codices. 4.) May redeploy one unit prior to scout moves. 5.) Gain Rending on All close combat attacks. 6.) Warlord may force their opponent to reroll any reserve roll. Warlord gains +1 to all reserve rolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBeadle Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 This sounds like a tremendous amount of work for really no return on investment. I guess if you have a lot of time on your hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 On the other hand... If you DO have a lot of time on your hands... Hey why not, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBeadle Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 I regret we don't live in the same town LH. I've always enjoyed your posts and would like to have been able to game with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroZero Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 James- I feel that was unusually negative of you. It's a fun, experiment. If you choose not to participate that's fine, but please don't discourage others. Lord Hanaur-Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusRedwings Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Supplement: I WIN Rule 1: I WIN Rule 2: see Rule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBeadle Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 My apologies Herozero, you are correct it was. Please forgive my rudness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 This is a very rough draft, so it's incomplete and the Points are pretty random and there are probably other issues, but Alpha Legion:- Chaos Lords/Sorcerers with Marks no longer unlock Cult Units as Troops.- The Alpha Legion are masters of attacking from multiple angles and luring their enemies into traps with feigned retreats. All Models with Veterans of the Long War gain the Live to Fight Another Day special Rule: Models with this Rule double their Initiative when attempting to escape from Sweeping Advances, and can Run, fire at full Ballistic Skill, and/or Charge as normal on Turns when they Regroup. Furthermore, all such Models who do not have the Bulky, Very Bulky, or Extremely Bulky special Rules gain Infiltrate. Warlord Traits:1: Stealth for Warlord2: Acute Senses for all Outflanking Units3: Furious Charge for Warlord and Unit4: Princeps of Deceit, as Main Rulebook table5: Re-roll Reserves6: Shock Tactics: Once per Game, declare at the start of the Shooting Phase. Select one Unit within 12" of the Warlord. That Unit's Shooting Attacks gain the Pinning and Blind special Rules for this Shooting Phase.Artefacts:- The Cloak of Mists: Character gains Shrouded. 50 Points, does not replace a Weapon.- Backstabber: S: User, AP2, Wielder is not bound by the requirements of Champion of Chaos to Issue or Accept Challenges. 25 Points.- The Alpharius Gambit: The first time the Bearer is slain, by any means, roll a d6 at the start of your next Turn. On a 1, the Bearer is dead. On a 2+, remove a randomly selected CSM Character in your Army from play, and place the Bearer within 3" of the removed Character's location, with d3 Wounds remaining, tho no more than the Bearer's original Wounds. 35 Points, does not replace a Weapon.- The Blade of Deceit: S; User, AP3, Rending, Wielder is WS10. 30 Points.- The Hydra Blade: S: User, AP3, Daemon Weapon, roll 2 dice and take the highest for the number of attacks generated by the Hydra Blade. If the sum of both dice is 4 or less, treat it as a 1 on a normal Daemon Weapon. 40 Points.- Spirit of the Hydra: Every time the Bearer loses a Wound, add one Attack to his Profile. This remains even if the Wounds are regained by some means. 15 Points, does not replace a Weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I regret we don't live in the same town LH. I've always enjoyed your posts and would like to have been able to game with you. That was a very nice thing to say. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I like the idea of the Ravenguard supplement that you propose, but I think I'd simply alter the main Codex CT to include jump pack troops, but NOT units in vehicles; keep the stealth on turn one and keep the jump pack buff. Just like how the Sentinels of Terra altered how Bolter Drill works, this would both give the Ravenguard what we all wanted, SCOUTING jump pack troops. It also takes away scouting vehicles which should be a White Scars thing. I like all your characters and items as well. I think I'd keep it simple and have a sarge upgrade that gives a single Tactical squad infiltrate. I'd also have an ITEM that gives hit and run, maybe a jump pack? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroZero Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Fluger, the reason I didn't do that would make it 100 percent pointless NOT to field the supplement. The point is never to invalidate the maim dex. I do like your suggestion on keeping it simple. No comment on Sniper rifles on Devs eh? I think that would be incredibly fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscentStudios Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I've got a draft Genestealer Cult codex/dataslate/supplement (dunno what they'd call it nowdays) that is pretty big - however I drafted it last summer and it needs to be updated for the new Tyranid normal. Perhaps I can jam on it with DisruptiveConduct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Fluger, the reason I didn't do that would make it 100 percent pointless NOT to field the supplement. The point is never to invalidate the maim dex. I do like your suggestion on keeping it simple. No comment on Sniper rifles on Devs eh? I think that would be incredibly fun. Well, it's not like people are lining up to make ravenguard lists right now. The only effective way to even benefit from their CT is to use the scout move, which you can do with Khan-led WS better. But if you wanted to run an all mech force with scouting, you could just not use Khan on a bike and do it with RG CT. So, the point was to actually get them to use JUMP PACKS in a RG force. The sniper rifles on Devs is definitely interesting, fluffy, and sensible, the only drawback is that there are no models for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aventine Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 The sniper rifles on Devs is definitely interesting, fluffy, and sensible, the only drawback is that there are no models for it. There are from FW, Seekers from the Heresy; come with cool cloaks and the options of sniper rifles or shotguns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/Space_Marine_Legion_Army_List/Legion_Troops/Legion_Reconnaisance_Squad/LEGION_MKIV_RECON_SQUAD.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 World Eaters: All models in your Primary Army Any unit with the Mark of Khorne may receive Berzerker Implants if it doesn't already have them. Khorne Berzerkers count as having them already equipped. Sorcerers may not be taken. Units that begin the game with 8 models gain Hatred and Adamantium Will for the remainder of the game. Berzerker Implants. 5 pts per model. Fearless, +1WS +1A Furious Charge. Chosen may take Juggys as Mount for 35 points. Vehicles may be Dedicated to Khorne for 20 pts. Walkers gain +1 attack, +1 WS. Transport Vehicles gain Assault Vehicle. If Vehicle already has Assault Vehicle Special Rule, adds +d3" to it's movement instead. Vehicle gains a 5+ Deny the Witch. Heavy Support: Teeth of Khorne WS 5 BS 5 S 4 T 4 W 2 I 4 A 2 Ld 10 Relentless. Reaper Autocannon. Berzerker Implants. Fearless. Furious Chage. Unit Size 1-16 35 pts / model Just a starting place on the fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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