Nathanvoodoo Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 i keep seeing this pop up for tyranid players - the psychic power the horror applies a -1 to hit rolls and leadership for a targeted unit. From what I understand this doesn't negate that units ability to succeed at a 6+ overwatch... right? A 6 is always a success in overwatch... right? The reason I ask is because I've seen it played both ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPaceORK Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Overwatch I believe says it is always an unmodifiable 6+. Maybe tau marker lights get around that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Pretty sure overwatch is modifiable. Just changes the base bs characteristics from whatever it is to 6+. The you apply modifies as normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kb10r Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 P182 "a 6 is always required for a successful hit roll, irrespective of the firing model's Ballistic Skill or any modifiers." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Check the FAQ. I'm told this one is covered there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 41 minutes ago, paxmiles said: Check the FAQ. I'm told this one is covered there. No, they added a timing mechanism for when you apply modifiers (i.e. after you alter a base stat), but they did not invalidate the part of Overwatch that states you don't apply any modifiers to this shot (with the rare exception that specifically states this such as Mordian: Parade Ground Doctrine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter.cosgrove Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Overwatch is always hitting on 6's. At any other time your BS can be modified to 7+/automiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 hmm..dunno. I just know that my opponents have been applying there positive modifiers to their overwatch and this is apparently covered in som FAQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 If they were playing Mordians, it is. If not, no, it's not there (unless I'm super missing something which is possible). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 They may have been playing wrong. Not everyone knows the rules very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPaceORK Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, paxmiles said: They may have been playing wrong. Not everyone knows the rules very well. Pretty sure you can reroll misses n such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted November 16, 2017 Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 Re-rolls work, but +/- modifiers only apply if they specifically refer to Overwatch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Yep, rerolls are not actually modifiers in terms of GW's usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanvoodoo Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 So... yes or no? The horror does not make 6s fail in overwatch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 To effect over watch it must specifically state that it does so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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