Gorgosaurusrex Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 When I first read the rules that give free transports to all units if you take a Battle Company I knew I had to make a list that abused this. I had considered taking a few Drop Pods in addition to the wall of Razorbacks but I think I like this better:Gladius Strike Force DetachmentSpace Marines Demi-CompanyCaptain 90Command Squad 120-2 Flamers, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Tactical Marines 110-Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Tactical Marines 110-Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Tactical Marines 110-Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Assault Marines 95-Sergeant has Meltabombs, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun10 Devastator Marines 220-4 Missile Launchers, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked PlasmagunSpace Marines Demi-CompanyChaplain 90Command Squad 120-2 Flamers, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Tactical Marines 110-Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Tactical Marines 110-Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Tactical Marines 110-Meltagun, Combi-Melta, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun5 Assault Marines 95-Sergeant has Meltabombs, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked Plasmagun10 Devastator Marines 220-4 Missile Launchers, Razorback w/ Lascannon & Twin-Linked PlasmagunAnti-Air Defense Force2 Stalkers 1502 Hunters 1402,000 The Devastator squads split up leaving the 4 Missile Launchers stay behind and the other half of the squad rides the Razorback. I deploy 12 Razorbacks containing 60 marines and 2 characters, 2 5-man Devastator squads with Missile Launchers, 2 Stalkers, and 2 Hunters. By taking the Gladius Strike Force detachment and meeting the Battle Company requirements I get 660 points of free Razorbacks. All of the Marines and transports have Objective Secured.Any thoughts on this list? Is this over the top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Two Demi-Companies so both DC groups have Obsec, Tactical Doctrines, Free Transports Demi Company 1 Captain - 90 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Assault Squad with 2 Flamers in Drop Pod - 80 5 Dev Squad with 4 Grav, Cherub in Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 225 Demi-Company 2 Chaplain - 90 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Assault Squad with 2 Flamers in Drop Pod with Deathwind - 80 5 Dev Squad with 4 Grav in Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 220 1st Company Task Force (PE vs one unit at start of game, -2 Leadership for enemy if within 12" of 3 units) 5 Sternguard in Drop Pod 5 Sternguard in Drop Pod 5 Sternguard in Drop Pod 1850 My points were wrong for deathwind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yours is pretty solid, although I'd almost want Asscans on the razors instead of las/plas. You want to be very mobile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Personally, short of the drop pod lists, I don't think they are too over the top. The drop pod list is just too good. Being able to blanket the board in obsec is nasty. At least with the razorback lists they have to move to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Personally, short of the drop pod lists, I don't think they are too over the top. The drop pod list is just too good. Being able to blanket the board in obsec is nasty. At least with the razorback lists they have to move to get there. With scout, that should help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophecy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Couldn't you also take IH for the Razorbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhailLenin Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah I changed mine: White ScarsCaptainChaplain 6x 5man Tact with CombiMelta, Melta in a Las/Plas Razor2x 5man Assault with 2 Flamer in a Las/Plas Razor2x 5man Devastator with 1 Grav/Amp in a Las/Plas RazorStormraven with TL MM, TL AssCan2x Stormtalon with Skyhammer and TL AssCanCulexus Assassin (Rides in the Raven and turns off all the Powers on the Table as the Raven flies within 12" of any unit affected by a Blessing.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Bigglesworth Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah but it's the av 12 vs av 11 planted on a marker that makes a few pods a necessity for me I have to hull out drop pods more often as I need to devote anti armor to the mobile platforms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah but it's the av 12 vs av 11 planted on a marker that makes a few pods a necessity for me I have to hull out drop pods more often as I need to devote anti armor to the mobile platforms Consider also that the razors are kicking out significantly more shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Consider also that the razors are kicking out significantly more shooting. With the deathwinds, I'm not slacking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah I changed mine: White Scars Captain Chaplain 6x 5man Tact with CombiMelta, Melta in a Las/Plas Razor 2x 5man Assault with 2 Flamer in a Las/Plas Razor 2x 5man Devastator with 1 Grav/Amp in a Las/Plas Razor Stormraven with TL MM, TL AssCan 2x Stormtalon with Skyhammer and TL AssCan Culexus Assassin (Rides in the Raven and turns off all the Powers on the Table as the Raven flies within 12" of any unit affected by a Blessing.) I just feel it is a waste to only take one heavy on the devs. I know you have a lot of shooting, but I want the four grav to take care of the heavy hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Certainly they aren't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah I changed mine: White Scars Captain Chaplain 6x 5man Tact with CombiMelta, Melta in a Las/Plas Razor 2x 5man Assault with 2 Flamer in a Las/Plas Razor 2x 5man Devastator with 1 Grav/Amp in a Las/Plas Razor Stormraven with TL MM, TL AssCan 2x Stormtalon with Skyhammer and TL AssCan Culexus Assassin (Rides in the Raven and turns off all the Powers on the Table as the Raven flies within 12" of any unit affected by a Blessing.) This is four sources though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Isn't that just two? Battle Company and Assassin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Also, my sternguard are 435. The Storm Raven with TLL/TLMM, and 2 x Stormtalon with Skyhammer are 430. Easy swap. Drop pods and Stormwing instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Isn't that just two? Battle Company and Assassin. Does the Gladius count as one under ITC? Otherwise it is two demi-companies and a Stormwing, plus Assassin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Two Demi-Companies so both DC groups have Obsec, Tactical Doctrines, Free Transports Demi Company 1 Captain - 90 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Assault Squad with 2 Flamers in Drop Pod - 80 5 Dev Squad with 4 Grav, Cherub in Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 225 Demi-Company 2 Chaplain - 90 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Tac with Combi-Melta/Melta in DP with Deathwind - 105 5 Assault Squad with 2 Flamers in Drop Pod with Deathwind - 80 5 Dev Squad with 4 Grav in Drop Pod with Locator Beacon - 220 1st Company Task Force (PE vs one unit at start of game, -2 Leadership for enemy if within 12" of 3 units) 5 Sternguard in Drop Pod 5 Sternguard in Drop Pod 5 Sternguard in Drop Pod 1850 My points were wrong for deathwind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I like this and all, but it wont be allowed under current ITC rules as you cant have more than one of the same detachment. ITC is where I spend most of my list building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I like this and all, but it wont be allowed under current ITC rules as you cant have more than one of the same detachment. ITC is where I spend most of my list building. Yep, there lies the problem. Unless, as ML thinks, Reece makes an exception for the double-demi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhailLenin Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I talked to Reece, he views it has 1 Detachment, the Battle Company that is. But not decided yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 If I can't take two canoptek harvests, why can someone take two demi companies. Seems the same to me. It works just like the decurion. Go tell reece he's wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yeah, I think this should be the same as all the other decurions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhailLenin Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Quote of him: I don't think so. Battle company is a unique formation with a different name and rules it becomes a new formation called the battle company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 'Cause marines are special. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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