VonVilkee Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Standard gw to hit chart assumed... -1 ws would rarely result in a negative one to hit. Double plus one and all of that. With increased stats over the norm that is correct now that I think about it as you go to 3+ to hit as soon as you are better... It would be easier to stay in the 4+ to hit band. Depends on if you think that off hand should regularly hit at 4+, or 5+... Either way mostly removes 3+ hitting the coyote way entirely eliminates it graham way limits it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashthedean Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 Yeah, -1 WS sounds better, if a little overcomplicated. That said, with shields giving +2 armor and great weapons hitting at initiative on the charge, I think there is already plenty of reason to take something else instead of a second hand weapon without applying the nerf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyote Posted September 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I prefer the minus one to hit. It's simpler and I don't feel as if the -1 WS is a strong enough disincentive to move players' mindset away from the same old same old. Smashthedean, don't think of it as a nerf, think of it as an opportunity to model. Of course, it's Joey's campaign so I will defer to his decision. Joey, are we going to use any of the following additonal rules? New Critical Hit Charts (optional rule in main rulebook) Escaping From Combat (optional rule in main rulebook) Blackpowder Weapons (optional rule in main rulebook) Rewards of the Shadowlord (optional rule in main rulebook) Mounted Warriors (optional rule in main rulebook) Random Happenings Subplots For Whom the Bell Tolls Wilderness Rules Encampments Chaos in the Streets Blazing Saddles Sawbones Power in the Stones Opulent Goods Ye Old Curiosity Shoppe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashthedean Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 I don't need more opportunities to model, I assure you! The less "opportunities" I have and the more old models I can throw on the table the better. I guess I just don't see that a disincentive is necessary? But like you said, whatever Campaignmaster Joey decides on will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyote Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Where oh where is Joey? Perhaps he's been abducted by aliens... or disintegrated by a dalek... or trapped in the Twilight Zone... or eaten by the thing under the bed... or made to walk the plank... or turned into a zombie... or attacked by a clown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashthedean Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Or... wearing sunglasses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiccus Posted September 17, 2016 Report Share Posted September 17, 2016 A lot of ideas and suggestions to process. I'll have to give some of them a bit of thought. Some ideas I like and some I'm not too keen on. I like improving armor and underused weapons. Lot to think about. I'll have something ready soon I promise. I've just been in a weird gaming limbo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 . I've just been in a weird gaming limbo this i understand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyote Posted September 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Joey, which of these is your favorite Ostlander model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 Ostlander 1 looks like he's in Ostlanders on ice the musical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbert Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 man, GW used to make so many awesome models that are nearly impossible to get nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyote Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 man, GW used to make so many awesome models that are nearly impossible to get nowadays. Yes and no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Yes and no. someone has a stockpile or a secret... ... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherbert Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 or a stockpile of secrets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashthedean Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Or a secret of stockpiles? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gailbraithe Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Are we doing Mordheim? I want to do Mordheim. If nobody else has called dibs on them, I'd like to call dibs on Cult of the Possessed. I've got the models, just needed a reason to get them painted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koyote Posted October 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Are we doing Mordheim? I want to do Mordheim. If nobody else has called dibs on them, I'd like to call dibs on Cult of the Possessed. I've got the models, just needed a reason to get them painted. Joey has been talking about a Mordheim mini-campaign for some time now. This is who we have so far: Joey - Ostlanders Shawn - Kislev Sherbert - Norse Jim - Witchhunters Kacy - Beastmen You - Possessed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gailbraithe Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 Yay! Jim must die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Miles, like all filthy abominations, must burn. Suffer not the witch. Suffer not the daemon. Suffer not the mutant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JMGraham Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Wondering how deep this "waiting" gif well goes. Joey, if you're not planning on getting this going before January, you should seriously put Koyote out of his misery and give him the go-ahead to organize it. As it stands, it's like torturing a kitten. A skirmish-gaming narrative-loving kitten, but a kitten nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiccus Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I'll get to writing up a couple scenarios. I think I'm going to allow most warbands. If the warband is super unofficial and fan made then let me look at it first. I know elves can be OP but I'd rather not limit people too much. Should we encounter balance issues then we can come to some consensus on what limitations to impose. As it is the only limitations I will be imposing are that if your warband can start with 6 heroes at the beginning then you will be limited to 5. Your 6th hero has to be earned through a lads got talent. As far as other modifications go I'm pretty keen to try out Koyotes armor and weapons rules. The exception being that I don't want to do the -1 to hit for two weapons. If it ends up that even with all the other boosts people are still using just dual wield then that can be addressed. Also we will be using the modified rout chart posted earlier in the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 My warband - * Ghost: .Barrett M107CQ sniper rifle * Thumper: breaching load out along with a Milkor MGL multi-shot 40mm grenade launcher * Dball: standard assault kit, Colt R0923CQB * (pause) ... oh wait, nevermind. Mordheim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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