HeroZero

What str 3 are you seeing on elves? Poison, Halberds and stupidly easy to access buffs to strength all blow that out of the water. I havent fought a basic strength 3 troop in so long I'm not sure they exist anymore Dwarves do have hatred against a lot. So its worth noting there. Also str 5/6 is almost comically easy for them to get, 5+ armor is irrelevant in almost every game I've played. Having played ogres a lot I can say its fairly common to lose a rank to elves prior to swings. It's why I quit them. (Only time I didn't is in blocks of 12 which look deathstar) And yes you listed the units I would consider awesome for skaven minus the HPA. OnG have an option but are so unreliable and have ass initiative. Stormvermin deny asf rerolls. Which is comically good.

Is it just me that rerolls have gotten out of hand. All elves: ASF Dark elves: rerolls of 1 to wound Dwarves: sometimes hatred Empire: hatred priests VC: spell ASF/rerolls Beasts: hatred 2/3 time I may be missing some. This is nuts. Why even have elite stats when everyone rerolls everything?! Armour has never been a solution since only 1+ really matters High strength? Most rerolls are elves so str5/6 is sufficient Bodies? Gotta have dudes standing to swing. Initiative? Yep. So what brings cheap wounds with high str and initiatives? Skaven. Yes. Skaven.

It's a possiblilty its a ridden monster with combined profile but it looks like there's a unit of them in the background...

Zombie Dragons I get aren't nearly as effective as they should be, and cost a ridiculous amount I just thought it could be a fun centerpiece model

In case no one but me hasn't noticed. That's not a character... Nurgle.monstrous cav? Oh god. Oh god.

Ite okay, I had the hare from the old times going on my guts so it would not have been awesome anyway. So about this dragon....

So I've been thinking....I want a dragon. In the last twenty years I've never once brought a dragon. It's about time I corrected my mistake. Can I field a legit zombie dragon lord at 2400? At minimum I want charmed shield/ Talisman of protection. Hmm. I want input on fielding the zombie dragon. Please chime in.

Vary widely in power. Terrible internal balance and and poorly balanced against the rest. Allow them to die please?

Having taken chariots enough times I assure six is not enough to make it. 8 actually can and will do better. Better I'd chariots + prince. They really need MWBD.

And if you do it right with undead who charges doesn't matter much, because always cheats first.. Changing the charge bonus was a mistake, it skewed combatants too badly.

You can get away with normal boys thusly 40-50 orc Biguns Full Command, Extra Hand weapons Razor Standard Almost the exact same kill ratio but less durable.

Those work.even better with.magnetic liner spray paint on inside.

Vrroom vrroom... Next stop your opponents deployment zone.

Yes. Shogun miniature trays are what you want.

Although double horde OnG w/trolls is THE netlist... It is the netlist for a reason. A pretty typical netlist ONG looks A Lot like Savage orc shaman Lvl 4, fencers blades, shrunken head Black Orc BSB 4+ ward save NG Goblin mage Lvl 2, scroll NG goblin mage NG goblin mage 40-50 Savage orc Biguns , FC 4x wolf Riders 2 x 20 NG archers, 3 fanatics, FC 40 Black Orcs, FC 8 trolls 2 spear Chukka 2 mangler squigs 2 rock lobba 2 doom diver.

Also units of chariots lose unlimited wheels. That's a deal breaker right there.

Yes. It's great. Once. You smash in! You do hits! You get bogged into steadfast. You lose combat next run and run. You vow never to run them again. Wolf chariots should be solo and hunt chaff with them. Pump wagons on the other hand...

Who cares about out of general (although he's likely in the turbo bus) once you are there you are there.

Thought it was special movement. Guess not.

Normal just means no special things like hexwraith ride throughs etc.

Yes. Undead are now the fastest army when magic buffed. A speed 7 unit can be in opponentss deployment zone turn 1.

I slapped together a "competitive" DE that falls well within the range, yet would probably be listed as a douche swizzle list. It's like any system, there are loopholes.

Always cheats first and murderous punkness kill scores.

I've heard there's some recipes in this thread for that chicken....

Nice! Yellow can be a bitch to paint but you nailed it.