WestRider Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Is the 4d3 for each of the Helverin's cannon, or both of them together? At that price point, I'm guessing both together, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikin Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Both together according to the video. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPaceORK Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Big knight is clocking in at around 585. Close combat knight has 5 attacks, 6 with one of the houses. So 18 attacks at 8/-2/d3 for 365ish. As stated before base points for knights is 280-85. You don't get CP for a detachment if you dont have at least 2-3 of the normal or big knights in the detachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 GW prices on the UK site: * re-release of the "Renegade" box set (with new terrain) is $ 160ish * Knight Castellan is $ 133ish * 2 Armiger Helverins are $ 60ish * Knight Valiant is $ 133ish... so the new models are two different kits for sure * the new terrain piece sold separately is $ 33ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Wow. That really knocked the b ottom out of the secondary Armiger market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Just now, pretre said: Wow. That really knocked the b ottom out of the secondary Armiger market. Oh wait. Slightly different kit. Nm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonwinter Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 When does the US GW Website update? Wasn't it on Friday night in the past 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 It's there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Yeah, up there now. Spendy. Both new knights are different, separate kits. And looks like the Armiger kit is a different variant that the chainsaw ones that came in that box set. So buy-in on the new models is a minimum of $415 to get your two new knights and a 2-pack of the new armiger kits. Oh, and you need to buy a new codex, so $455... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 4 hours ago, dalmer said: GW prices on the US site: * re-release of the "Renegade" box set (with new-to-box terrain) is $ 195ish * Knight Castellan is $ 170ish * 2 Armiger Helverins are $ 75ish * Knight Valiant is $ 170ish... so the new models are two different kits for sure * new knight themed terrain piece sold separately is $ 40ish FTFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 It's interesting about the Cast vs Vall. They both share one complete sprue: And the differentiator is this: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 Pre-ordered mine today 😀😀😀😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 that's too bad about the prices... when I saw the UK website listings I just used what the sterling pound is and converted surprised that they're THAT much more expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 11 hours ago, dalmer said: that's too bad about the prices... when I saw the UK website listings I just used what the sterling pound is and converted surprised that they're THAT much more expensive Price conversion has never been a great way to estimate GW prices. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 We’re sure you’ve pre-ordered the new Codex: Imperial Knights by now, and maybe even a towering Knight Castellan or Knight Valiant. So you’ll be delighted to learn that coming your way next week are Armiger Warglaives to accompany them into battle. These smaller Knights were introduced to Warhammer 40,000 in the Forgebane boxed set earlier this year, and they’ll soon be available to buy separately. The Armiger Warglaive is the mount of the lower order of nobles in Imperial Knight houses – the distant cousins, mad uncles (you know what families are like) and promising warriors of common birth. Smaller in stature than other Knights, the Armiger Warglaive is fast and responsive, and still more than capable of butchering entire squads with its reaper chain-cleaver, or devastating armoured vehicles with blasts from the thermal spear. In-game, you’ll find that the Armiger Warglaive has received a bit of an upgrade from its appearance in Forgebane. The reaper chain-cleaver now has two modes of attack. It can make a double Strength and high Damage attacks for taking on larger foes, or a sweeping assault that doubles the number of attacks but hits at the Armiger Warglaive’s regular Strength – which is still more than enough to make a mess of most Infantry units. This new sweep attack pairs well with some of the Household Traditions in the new codex – getting not one, but two extra attacks with House Griffith’s Glory of the Charge is an obvious candidate, as is House Cadmus, whose Hunters of the Foe ability gives re-rolls of 1s to wound when cutting through units with (comparatively) low Wounds characteristics. As you might expect, there are a few Stratagems in the codex that are designed to help you get the most from your Armiger Warglaives as well. How about deploying a unit of them behind enemy lines with Sally Forth!, or using Pack Hunters to re-roll charges with multiple Armiger Warglaives. Our favourite might be the simplest – use the Armiger Helverin’s immense speed to move and advance towards the enemy, then surprise them with a charge using Full Tilt, and make the most of that reaper chain-cleaver. You can take up to three Armiger Warglaives in your force as a single Lord of War choice – and you get two in the Armiger Warglaives set to get you started. It’ll be on pre-order next week and in stores a week later. If you can’t wait that long, Forgebane is still available to buy and contains two Armiger Warglaives alongside an Adeptus Mechanicus army, some Necrons for target practice, and the Warhammer 40,000 rules. You’ll have to wait a wee bit longer for the last new release to go alongside the new codex. The valiant Freeblade Sir Hekhtur, and his Knight Preceptor steed Canis Rex, will be available later in the year as part of a dual kit that also builds the Knight Preceptor (not to mention every other variant of Questoris-class Knight). We showed off Sir Hekhtur last week (see here for more details about him), and you’ll get his full rules in the codex. We’ll be letting you know when he’s approaching (not that you’ll miss him in his ground-shaking Knight), so keep a close eye on the Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page for more news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 All I see is excuses for releasing a codex with entries that have no model. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 Any clue if this codex will prevent admech players from using the Knights in their codex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 47 minutes ago, paxmiles said: Any clue if this codex will prevent admech players from using the Knights in their codex? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarlessllama Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Yup, I know what I'm going to be playing this OFCC😁😁😁😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Posted 04/06/2018 The Top 5 Stratagems in Codex: Imperial Knights Codex: Imperial Knights is absolutely packed with Stratagems, each offering a range of new tactical options for your army. We’re sure you’ll have fun finding out how to use them all when you get your copy, but to help get you started, here are three you won’t want to miss… Sometimes, it’s best to take down opponents at range – and sometimes, it’s best to close your eyes, seize your opponents, clench your fist around them and beat them down. This Stratagem is going to grind anything short of a Hive Tyrant into paste! First previewed in our Dominus-class Knight rundown, this Stratagem is great for allied Imperial Knights, letting you use a Knight Castellan or Knight Valiant to shield the troops at its feet. An exploding Knight is a thing to behold on the battlefield – there’s little better than the look on your opponent’s face when they finally remove one, only to lose a sizeable chunk of their army when they do so. This Stratagem lets you increase the odds to 50% (or more, for the Dominus class), and is well worth holding a couple of Command Points in reserve for. An alternative to Noble Sacrifice, Valiant Last Stand is great for any Knights with powerful weaponry they don’t want to miss the chance to use. It’s particularly deadly with the Knight Valiant’s conflagration cannon – having reduced Ballistic Skill when you’re on your last wound doesn’t matter when you’re firing a massive flamer that hits automatically! Want to make maximum use of the new Warlord Traits in the new codex? This Stratagem lets you nominate up to two additional Knights in your force as Characters and grants them each a Warlord Trait. Want to use these Stratagems in your games? Make sure to grab Codex: Imperial Knights, available to pre-order online right now and in a store near you this weekend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 With so many heirlooms, having access to more than 3 would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Really, they only gave us 3 Strats today. We already knew about the 5++ share, and the 1/3 extra artifact was a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, InfestedKerrigan said: Really, they only gave us 3 Strats today. We already knew about the 5++ share, and the 1/3 extra artifact was a given. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted June 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Wanted MadCat IIC Got Armiger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 On 6/4/2018 at 12:00 PM, InfestedKerrigan said: Wanted MadCat IIC Got Armiger For what it's worth, the Madcat is one you could acquire via OOP Armorcast https://www.nobleknight.com/P/2147357338/Mad-Cat-Battlemech Not strictly 40k legal, but you could probably find some rules for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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