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Very cool :)

Should do well at LVO. Instant death and crazy psi-defence rolls might give it pause. Gk on Gk action :p

Edited the original post to make the list legal. Lost 1 gk termie, a sword off of one of the NDK's, 1 biker, swaps Sam for Belail, and flips the RW knights over to HQ (they don't take up a slot). It loses the pinpoint deep strike from belail, but gains another eternal tank, some snipers, and FNP in the bike unit.

This one is for funzies :) Grey Knights Nemesis Strike force: HQ: Librarian ML3, Hammer, Domina Liber Daemonica 175 HQ: Warlord Librarian ML3, Hammer 150 Troop: Terminators *5 Hammer, Falchons *4, Psycannon, Teleport homer, melta bomb 226 Heavy: NDK Heavy incinerator, Heavy psycannon, Sword, Personal teleporter 225 Heavy: NDK Heavy incinerator, Heavy psycannon, Personal teleported 215 LoW: Draigo 245 Dark Angels allied detachment HQ: Sammael 200 HQ: Ravenwing command squad *5, Ravenwing grenade launcher, Apothecary 230 Elite: Deathwing terminators *5 TH/SS *5, Cyclone missile launcher. 270 Troop: Scouts *5 sniper rifle *5 60 1996 The list starts with 11 warp charges. The librarians are rolling (mostly) in the sanctic tree, looking for both sanctuary and gate of infinity. The warlord lib is rolling on the GK table and looking for either the 'knows another power' or the 'can auto deep strike turn 1 with a re-roll to scatter'. The Idea. This is an all or nothing assault list. Every part of it wants to get in the enemies face as soon as possible. It can plan for and take advantage of going second so it can set up closer to the enemy lines. It hopes to hit its hardest turn 2, having weathered 1 round of shooting, and puts so many threats into play so close that the enemy has difficulty stopping all of them. Turn 1 (or 2) has the death wing in close, draigo (hopefully) gating in nearby. The librarians (hopefully) get sanctuary up adding +1 to invulns. The NDK's either shunt into position now, or make normal jump moves and save shunt for later. The command squad and sam close range (scout) and use skilled rider to hang in cover. The snipers babysit an objective and provide harassing fire. Turn 2 (or 3) one of the librarians with sanctuary joins the death wing unit. Thoughts?

And np pretre. Made me think of chimeras loaded up with terminators. Fun times. :)

Not sure for troops (thinking they're still able to dedicate) but pods can also be taken in fast slots for wolves.

P. 80. Second paragraph under transport capacity. Short answer , no. No jump/jet embarkation unless specifically stated.

I bought some centurians today... Hope you're happy Cap... ???????????? Time to melt some faces.

I'm picturing fluger sitting on his dinner table with no shirt on and wearing a little furry crown. :p Q bad ass drum music.

As far as which list, I like the second. Gain a little flexibility with 2 flyers vs just the 1. Not being able to DS the star shouldn't be an issue with gate as it does roughly the same thing :) Also, having them on the table turn 1 could let you (to a limited degree) influence your opponents deployment with perceived threat. As far as having issues with horde, the list is like any other. Strong against lots of builds, and needing a little finess vs others. Comes down to player/mission/dice imo. With LVO being competitive how would you handle other current meta strong list? Eldar? Serpent spam n Wknights. Tau? Dice dice and more dice. Deamons? Lots of big psychic crap all over, possibly (or not, blessings, lol) disrupting your stars mobility. Any mix of the above? Have you looked at sanctuary (sanctic)? Not huge but would take draigo to super tank levels (2++). Have you looked at the FW lib that auto grants invis? (I think :) Jy2 (dakka/40k/batreps) is trying a similar (centstar) list, if you need more similar data. Your list looks fun and mean :p I'm eager to see how it performs. Keep us posted :)

Putting a period in the sentence would have made the book over powered, so GW is saving it for the next DE downloadable formation. ????????????

I lol'd. :p

Just think of it like the arc from Indiana jones. The librarian closes his eyes while bob gets his face melted off. ;)

I believe it's a 'pass a str check or removed from play', or the like.

It would be cool to look at on the table too. Gives up a fair # of kill points. But with all those units... Floating... Around... ???? it should be able to grab/contest plenty of objectives.

Also, who is 'the tiger'?

Did you count alparius twice? ???? They need to add in points for the emperor too, so that he and horus can have it out.

Congrats on moving forward with school! You'll have to come back to the NW for some ofcc action some day :) And thanks to the power of the internet you can still 'hang' with your old crowd Let us know how your school and games turn out

I think the wait and see is the right way to play it. Once the book is in front of you you can start to see all the statistical/rule interactions better. Seems like there have been a few codexs with 'meh' release reactions that turned out to be nasty on the table.

Having not played them ever I can't weigh in on the changes. Besides losing vect, which is a bummer. Hopefully he returns in a Dslate. Any seasoned DE players care to go over their pros n cons from the new book? Harliquins in there?

Very spiffy write up, informative and entertaining . Thanks for sharing. The guard sniper reinforces my experiences as well. Somehow they always seem to pull off something sweet, like a 5 man pcs killing a chaplain that had charged them. If you need to kill a terminator, shoot him in the face with a lasgun. Works (almost) every time. Between this and another post(s) it's looking like mobility is key to maelstrom missions.

Sounds like it was a great weekend :) it's always fun when the games are close. Looks like the venue had a bit more room, did folks like being able to move around the tables? Would you change your list to add mobility for 7th/maelstrom? Thanks for sharing :)

Arrived, buying the t-shirt now. ;) How'd the open go? Good I hope.

Is an IC that has chosen to begin the game as part of a unit, and not held in reserve, deployed in coherency with that unit?

While an IC is part of a unit does he count as part of that unit for all rules purposes, while retaining the rules for IC?