Psilence Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Putting a period in the sentence would have made the book over powered, so GW is saving it for the next DE downloadable formation. ???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 There is no comma though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yes but that is how you read it. In any event taking the archon is worthwhile to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 RAW, I don't think it does require an Archon- the Court is a normal HQ choice that lists no particular restrictions on its selection. (Compare to units such as the Command Squad, Honor Guard, Bodyguards, etc, which all have text indicating that they can only be taken accompanying another HQ choice.) I rather doubt it was intended that way, but I don't really see any functional argument against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterman Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I dunno, used to be dedicated transports were not taken without a parent unit, now they can be taken in FA in 7ed dexes. The court seems to be the same sort of thing and could just be the new paradigm going forward. Consider also the ramifications for unbound - if the Archon was required it complicates the 'take what you want' of unbound. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm going to make an unbound army of nothing but single model units of Urghul. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I'm going to make an unbound army of nothing but single model units of Urghul. Using fantasy ghouls!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 It'll be amazing! I can't kill AV12 vehicles, but I can kill anything else! It'd also be hilarious to watch a crazy salvo of shooting and just pick up a single model. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Ahh, hilarious unbound lists. I always wanted a 23 Penitent Engine (all single units) list at 1850. At least one of them will get into assault. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 It'd be 133 Urghul. With fleet they should get there about as quick as can be. I also like the idea of overwatching and just losing one model. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Mental note if fluger ever says DE unbound bring all Thunderfire cannons and the Achilles... That should kill things good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Hanaur Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I dunno, used to be dedicated transports were not taken without a parent unit, now they can be taken in FA in 7ed dexes. The court seems to be the same sort of thing and could just be the new paradigm going forward. Consider also the ramifications for unbound - if the Archon was required it complicates the 'take what you want' of unbound. Nope. Gotta take the Archon. Sorry guys. No amount of "but RAW says" crap is going to change it. Read it out loud in the way it was meant to be read and you will clearly understand "THAT" is a separator. It's hardly worth arguing about on this list since...I have an Archon. So make a thread about that rule if you want. But I think its silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Think what you like but it's now even close to disputable. It's the new format for dexes. It's an HQ choice. The snippet I quoted is just a way to get out of using an FOC for it. NOTHING in the language there implies that one MUST get an Archon to get the unit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 **shrug** Not doing it. Its right there. Dunno why its unclear to some but... whatevs. I took an Archon. Done and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Not doing it. Its right there. Dunno why its unclear to some but... whatevs. I took an Archon. Done and done. It's not unclear. Look, you convinced me of the earlier thing, but this is plain as day. Let's change the sentence a bit: For each Archon included in a Detachment, the Detachment can include a Court of the Archon that gains stealth. For each Archon included in a Detachment, the Detachment can include a Court of the Archon that can be taken as a Fast Attack choice. For each Archon included in a Detachment, the Detachment can include a Court of the Archon that can be painted black because the Rolling Stones are awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 It's unclear because your interpretation does not appear to support RAW. We might not like raw. We might not agree with raw. Raw is however how we must play the game (unless we house rule otherwise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Put the word THAT in green. THAT starts a second related thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I only changed the colors of words I changed from the original. I really don't understand your semantic point whatsoever. Here are the facts: Court of the Archon is in the Dark Eldar codex as an HQ option. Court of the Archon has a special rule that allows it to be taken without taking up a FOC slot if an Archon is also taken. The second fact doesn't invalidate the first fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Yep. Just like you can take more lone wolves than troops/wolf guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 This battle cannot be won...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Not with that attitude, intrizic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Wait, I don't see the difference between Lone Wolfs and Command Squads. If you're saying that Lone Wolfs don't require TR or WG, then Command Squads don't require an HQ to take. You can take one Lone Wolf for each Troops choice or unit of Wolf Guard or Wolf Guard Terminators in your army. This selection does not use up a Force Organisation slot. You may take one Command Squad for each Captain, Librarian or Chaplain in your army. This selection does not use up a Force Organisation slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted October 9, 2014 Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 Not with that attitude, intrizic! LOL you're not the first person to say that to me, ....looking at you Munkie.... Wait, I don't see the difference between Lone Wolfs and Command Squads. If you're saying that Lone Wolfs don't require TR or WG, then Command Squads don't require an HQ to take. Yes, the chaos is spreading........Blood for the Lord of Change God !!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted October 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2014 I think "not understanding" me on this is a matter of choice. My point is clear. So if you mean you dont agree, im comfortable w that because as I pointed out, Im gonna take the archon and im going to take the high road. If you dont feel compelled to include an archon and you want to rely on your reading, great, do it. The TO or your opponent can work it out with those who want to do this. Im not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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