Brother Glacius Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I didn't find it answered in the FAQ. The banner states that the unit has flaming attacks. However, it doesn't state that the attacks are magical. The FAQ said that attacks made by magic items are magical, but as this is a banner, and it does not make attacks, I would think the attacks are only flaming, not magical. Has this been answered somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindog Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 flaming, but not magical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I didn't find it answered in the FAQ. The banner states that the unit has flaming attacks. However, it doesn't state that the attacks are magical. The FAQ said that attacks made by magic items are magical, but as this is a banner, and it does not make attacks, I would think the attacks are only flaming, not magical. Has this been answered somewhere?But Ethereal models still have plenty of other things that kill them. So no magical attacks but spirit hosts still die off to crumble due to CR. Looking at your other posts I see your thinking here, but just remember Ethereal models are nice for chaff and support but will not hold a Rank and File unit long. And they die in droves to characters with magical weapons. Keep that in mind and they're golden. Do love those new Spirit Host models though. The new look just puts the old ones to shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted September 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't have any spirit hosts in my army. I was just curious. Helping a friend hopefully join in with Empire..and wanted to see what benefits that banner would give his unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't have any spirit hosts in my army. I was just curious. Helping a friend hopefully join in with Empire..and wanted to see what benefits that banner would give his unit.But those models are sweet. Another Empire Player would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I have lots of the old spirit hosts...so those will have to do. :) And yes, he has had empire for a very long time, but rarely plays. I'm still working on him joining the League...but getting him painting an army is the most important. We also like Kings of War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkieft Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I could be wrong, and I don't have a book handy to check myself... but doesn't the Flaming rule state that the attacks are magical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I could be wrong, and I don't have a book handy to check myself... but doesn't the Flaming rule state that the attacks are magical? No, no it does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Kremmet has it right, pg 69, there is no mention of it being a magical attack. But it does cuase fear to beast, cavalry and chariots along with rerolls to wound units in buildings. (Totally forgot that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkieft Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Maybe that was last edition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 The banner is mainly to counter regen saves. It's ok for demis but I wouldn't rush a unit of state trrops at trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Bullet Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 That banner is awesome for either holding or assaulting the Watchtower. Flaming attacks re-roll to wound in buildings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 That banner is awesome for either holding or assaulting the Watchtower. Flaming attacks re-roll to wound in buildings! Yes it is, however, even state troops are crap with this banner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yes it is, however, even state troops are crap with this banner.Well State Troops are really only good when they can be in a Horde formation with a boost from a Warrior Priest. Then they can earn their points, otherwise they are just a speed bump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 well MN is right that states are crap with that banner(i think he was just making a joke of how bad they are lol)... cause why would u take that when you can have a WP do the same thing for a turn, plus that one is magical right? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 The banner allows reroll to wound if you're assaulting a building a warrior priest allows you reroll to hit. Horde or not, they still won't get the job done for assaulting a building. That was what I was saying. And no, I really do think empire state troops are garbage. I played empire for 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I think the WP's prayer is still considered only flaming. The description does not say magical flaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudra34 Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I think the WP's prayer is still considered only flaming. The description does not say magical flaming. That's the truth! The hits inflicted on models in base contact are magical, but the unit's attacks don't get any bonus besides flaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 yea i didn't know hence the question mark :) seems silly that a bound spell creates flaming attacks that aren't magical. so does the WP go around with a box of matches lighting all of their weapons on fire? ;) hehe seems silly that runes make an artillery magical, even if it doesn't affect the attack, yet a spell effect on weapons is not magical. oh gw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted September 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 There are two different prayers. One is an attack that is magical. The other is a buffer that is not. IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudra34 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Naw. Just the one prayer. It does a s4 hit, s5 against demons and undead, to all enemy models in base contact with the priest, then grants flaming attacks to his unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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