white_devil Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/05/2015-itc-mid-season-update-poll/ The poll is much better worded this time. Vote now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I voted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I voted as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I wish there was a bit more of a middle ground on the d thing... The six should kill Lysander etc... But whatever fixed 2 wounds is decent I'd like it to be 3 or 4 but whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I wish there was a bit more of a middle ground on the d thing... The six should kill Lysander etc... But whatever fixed 2 wounds is decent I'd like it to be 3 or 4 but whatever... I thought much the same. A better middle ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I'd also like to see stomps can only impact the unit/units the Knight is locked in combat with. I actually end up doing this as wounds would be impacted and I'm not cheesy enough to shop for the sixes across the board... Been a bit since I read the itc closely might already be in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/06/30069/ Reecius talks about why the ITC does what it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 I'd also like to see stomps can only impact the unit/units the Knight is locked in combat with. I actually end up doing this as wounds would be impacted and I'm not cheesy enough to shop for the sixes across the board... Been a bit since I read the itc closely might already be in there It is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_devil Posted May 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Well, results are in: https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/05/08/itc-2015-mid-season-update-poll-results-are-in/ JetBikes stay as-is by the slimmest of margins. I'm going to agree with Reece here and speculate it's because people just aren't getting it, as they haven't played it yet. It will probably go the way of invisibility (first poll kept it, second poll nerfed it by a huge margin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 I'm waiting for Jeremy's Skitari/BA combo to bring about calls for nerfs on either Battle Brothers or Skitari. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowbakk Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 More are up in arms about Scouting / Scoring Fortifications, though. Shooty Drop Pods are more par for the course. I didn't know about the Flesh Tearers formation until I read his list, though. I wonder what the Sternguard will get swapped out for since the combi-gravs were apparently lackluster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 He said a Furioso with HF and Frag Cannon in a Lucious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Why would you ever think a non relentless platform would be any good with a salvo weapon? They suck so bad half the range and less shots on the move stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 It's more that they are in a drop pod so they are close up and are AP2. They function about the same as a combiplas without getting hot, only lose 3" of range for those 2 shots, and wound nasties like Wraithlords/Barbed Hierodules on 3s/2s instead of 5s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Combiplas are good on scout sarges too, basically anything that is close up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 Cannot wait to see the final outcome..and the resulting rage when the Space marine codex explodes all their earnest work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 8, 2015 Report Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) It's more that they are in a drop pod so they are close up and are AP2. They function about the same as a combiplas without getting hot, only lose 3" of range for those 2 shots, and wound nasties like Wraithlords/Barbed Hierodules on 3s/2s instead of 5s. Centurions do it better comparable costs Edit: you can go "cheap" on the sternguard but you get what you pay for sacrificial bad on range centurions could pod in safer and are tougher Edited May 8, 2015 by VonVilkee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Why would you ever think a non relentless platform would be any good with a salvo weapon? They suck so bad half the range and less shots on the move stupid. Are Combi-Plasmas any good against Wraithknights? I'm pretty sure they aren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Are Combi-Plasmas any good against Wraithknights? I'm pretty sure they aren't. Go even cheaper and just use the hell fire they wound on twos and aren't listed as poisoned. Either way you want grav you want cannons or guns on relentless models... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 No [big bad swear word]ing [big bad swear word] 3 Detachments is what the community wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Otherwise, I support the calls made. FrontlineGate was getting out of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Frontlinegate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Go even cheaper and just use the hell fire they wound on twos and aren't listed as poisoned. Either way you want grav you want cannons or guns on relentless models... Hellfire rounds are Poisoned now, except for the Vindicare's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hanaur Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 No [big bad swear word]ing [big bad swear word] 3 Detachments is what the community wanted. Like I said, and people argued with me. Oh well. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 9, 2015 Report Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hellfire rounds are Poisoned now, except for the Vindicare's. :( oh well I still wouldn't use combi grav on non relentless models but I guess I could see the temptation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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