Lord Hanaur

Mutilators do one thing Obliterators can never do: occupy the Elites slot.

They are. You're not lying. That claw is just... Its cool

Wowa. that would be silly. Short guy like me would never reach the center of that board!

Scorpions ar awesome. Rending pistols, 4 attacks on the charge, STR 4 on 3 of them and of course they infiltrate/outflank as well as have 3+ saves and a CLAW that DOESNT go last! wuuuuh. That exarch goes on I6 and is a character butcher! Thwe Hemlock is also awesome but it requires that you build the list around it. So, maybe not as a random include except as a fun thing. However, with outflankers, you can increase its value a lot. So thus my suggestion on Illic.

Latest List on my ever eveolving poroject: Skyshield Landing Pad Obliterator Obliterator Mutilator Mutilator Mutilator 5 Black Legion Chaos Marines Rhino (Dirge Caster) 5 Black Legion Chaos Marines Rhino (Dirge Caster) 5 Chaos Marines Rhino (Dirge Caster) 5 Chaos Marines Rhino (Dirge Caster) Sorcerer (Meltabomb, Mark of Nurgle) Black Legion Chaos Lord (Combifist, Combi-Melta, Mark of Nurgle, Aura of Dark Glory, |Eye of Night) 14 Nurgle Raptors (2 x Meltaguns) 14 Nurgle Raptors (2 x Meltaguns) Heldrake w Baleflamer I located two old school second edition Obliterators and bought three new Mutilators so I can stop proxying now. Boons had to go even though I liked someof the stuff I was getting. Itll be the first try with a landing pad.

And Bioroid Terran Fighter models rolling around out in Ebay land?

You cannot assault from the Webway Portal. So if you're going to bring in a nasty surprise on someone, make it NASTY. Kabalite Trueborn pack a punch, can be soooo anti-tank and will be effective the round they appear. Grotesques (aberation with Scissorhands)? YES PLEASE! A unit of them with Urien and you're golden. They just pound on things so hard and take a beating so well. T5, 3 wounds, and they can get in a Raider the round they come on and assault afterwards whether the raider is killed or not. Just some thoughts.

Also, on the issue of Hemlocks and such, i did a blog on that. I also tested the army pretty intensively. it works. Making Flyers work

You said ANY advice so here's mine: 2000 Pts - Codex: Eldar Roster Total Roster Cost: 1995 1 Illic Nightspear, 140 pts 1 Spiritseer, 70 pts 1 Faolchu's Wing 5 Fire Dragons, 110 pts 1 Wave Serpent, 155 pts = (Spirit Stones + Holo-Fields ) + TL Bright Lances+ Shuriken Cannon) 5 Wraithguard, 160 pts 5 Wraithguard, 160 pts 1 Wave Serpent, 155 pts = (Spirit Stones + Holo-Fields + TL Scatter Lasers + Shuriken Cannon) 5 Wraithblades, 160 pts 1 Wave Serpent, 155 pts = (Spirit Stones+ Holo-Fields+ TL Starcannons+ Shuriken Cannon) 10 Guardian Defenders, 90 pts 1 Heavy Weapon Platform, + Bright Lance 1 Hemlock Wraithfighter, 185 pts 4 Warp Spiders, 76 pts = 4 * 19 1 Warp Spider Exarch, 29 pts 1 Fire Prism, 150 pts = (base cost 125 + Spirit Stones 10 + Holo-Fields 15) 1 Fire Prism, 150 pts = (base cost 125 + Spirit Stones 10 + Holo-Fields 15) You get more tough troops, you get an outflanking Death flamer unit amongst them and you get a melee capable character that can help break the flamers of doom free of any nasty entanglements. The shard won't be as useful as the Wing on the Spiritseer. I'd use it to get to a Wraithguard unit after it outflanks perhaps? Just a thought. Your list is intact and with more firepower and more deployment options.

Sadly true. I made custom ones before realizing they were actually flat. Still like using them but its kind of a hassle to move them when people walk on them during play.

There is no cover saves. I beleive the actual text makes clear that you lay the 3 inch template flat. These are I think, vortex grenade markers and theior height is just for show.

The cost is very comensurate with its abilities. Acts like a Vindicator from Hades with legs and better armor. Like: a LOT better armor. For 370 points, I SUPPOSE you can excuse the 6 Hull Points. The Hull Points are silly on that thing. Would make for an interesting game of keep away.

ALL Missions are from the main rule book, exactly as written. All Missions include Mysterious Objectives. Don't forget! Round 1: Deployment: Dawn of War Mission: The Emperors Will, page 130 Round 2: Deployment: Hammer and Anvil Mission: Crusade, Page 126 Round 2: Deployment: Dawn of War Mission: Purge The Alien, Page 127

VICTORY!

well if he knows it got delivered to tualatin then he probably has a tracking number

I need a CSR who can be licensed immediately. Licensing is not easy and it's not for dumb people (It really isn't even for "moderately intelligent" folks). It's 80 hours of online or classroom time they have to do on their own, that the state gives the tests for, At the end of that road lies a fairly nice career though with a lot of opportunity and a whole LOT of job security. Bonus's are nice and they go up every year. Has to be someone comfortable with marketing and especially meeting with clients. Professionalism needs to be really good. Problem solving skills are HUGE and the work comes atcha fast, so they gotta be REAL organized and conscious of their time management all the time. What looked like a pile of work that was almost done turns into two new piles and fast. Just because we have no time doesn't mean I don't need it done. =) It's off the subject but since the original poster is asking I spose its cool.

As an insurance agent my first exhortation is to make sure he makes a claim with insurance and make sure that you GET insurance, Renters insurance specifically with as low a deductible as possible, to cover such things. Renters pollcies are just such a no brainer for gamers. I highly recommend them. Feel free to hit me up with a PM if you want one in Oregon or Washington! They often do not pay for the painting service side of it but frankly given the cost of the hobby, I am certain most gamers will take the brand new models over the nothing that is the alternative. Look in dumpsters and such around the immediate area. Pics of the items would help identify thenm on EBAY. Even bad pictures are betterthan None. Good luck my friend.

My intention is to attend. I can provide a lot of terrain, boards, tables, whatever if I make it. In fairness my staffing issues are ever present and so I will not know as a certainty whether I can make it or not for a bit.

Dataslates are banned at tournies? interesting. Hadn't come up much. Escalation and Stronghold, lotsof talk on those but the Dataslates are another thing altogether and its just hard to keep up!

You said you liked the biomech look right? Here's a Daemonforge style list that I was floating to people for opinions: 3x Forge Fiends (2 Hades AutoCannons+ectoplasma Cannon) 2 x Heldrakes ( baleflamers) 3x 5 Chaos Marines (Vets) Prince (power armor, Tzeentch, Wings, Eye of Night, Hand of Darkness) Prince (power armor, Tzeentch, Wings, Mastery Level 1, Last memory of Yuranthos) 3 x 1 Mutilator (nurgle mark, vets) Everything that CAN has Daemon rule on it which was kinda the theme. Daemon forge lists seemed like a fun concept. The models involved here are NICE.

My friend uses the fortress. He has three psykers casting prescience on two units of 5 plasma cannons, and a unit o 5 missiles....sticks a Storm behind it w the objectives he hides behind the fortress and just chucks dice and Nhal wondstorms atcha. Risky as hell to DS Around a storm. Fun? Better pray you have some nice 48" str 9 guns, ot lances!

I think that separating the Paint and sports score from battle points is usually popular with us. We've had situations where a guy lost two out of three and won best overall. He's a swell guy and all but that was ridiculous. So scoring is usually a hot topic around O-town. other than that, i like to go to tournies that are aiming to make it accessible to the newest player, which means yeah, saying no to some of the shenanigans. TO's hate to be the "bad guy" by barring some things but if it encourages newer players to compete, I'm all for it.

bring em all. Should be a good time. Gabi's usually puts on a good tournament.

ultimately where the plane was last seems like when the shots go off technically? This comes up with Vector Strikes all the time,

d'oh