Nathanvoodoo

I gotcha. I see what you are saying. Infiltrators aren't a very competitive unit. Don't forget also, tho, that I was running right around 800 points of Kastellans and they mostly just hung out and punched drop pods. They are a tough nut to crack, but did they really do 800 points worth of work?

I'm just going from my experience with them. If you are going to not run things cause of t3 then you'd be better off ignoring admech skitarii altogether.

I've not had much issue with their survivibity 4+6++, feel no pain, 2 wounds and stealth. They have always done me right- and I've got 6 games in with them now. Granted my first 3 games were a tourney and I was running a silly list- but by the third game I had em together enough to pull off a tie. Sure they drop to s6 fire- but they have a few tricks up their sleeves and give you a really quick moving option to an otherwise brutally slow army I've got a number of games in with the KASTELANS and I'm just ok with them. They are a very Death Star feeling unit. They are hard to kill- but also don't really do much other than very slowly slog around the field and soak up fire. I think 1 maniple of them would really bun me out with it's damage output for the points investment.

AgentP I'd put the destroyer squads up to 5 man squads. That's an additional 4 Destoyers - but they'll cover much more space and put out LOTS of shots. Additionally if you lose 1 you don't need to check morale. More INFILTRATORS! They are fast, and very shooty/punchy but need numbers. The aura they project can win games- exploit it with max numbers. Another Dominus? Another Relic? Cognis Heavy Grav Cannons on a 5 man squad of Destoyers?

My jokes are lost. I tried.

Meh. It's all a game. Some of it is dumb, but I have fun either way. One thing I really think is stupid is folks other than Space Marines riding in drop pods. I mean WTF? Isn't the G force supposed to be crushing to the normal Joe. It's just dumb. I can see a rhino being loaded up with a bunch of Guardsmen or , and Landraider full of Skitarii, but Drop pods are for Marines. It's a thing. Also... I'm always slightly pissed that drop pods have guns and shoot as well as marines!?! Who's shooting that thing? Dumb. Most servitors are pretty bogus on their BS- and certainly not SM caliber.

Yeah. As a BA player I can only really shrug. Now Marines have cheaper and better scouts, cheaper terms, and your Dreads have the same stats as my Furiosos? Cool. Well, I've been done with BA prior to this- but this cements it. On a positive note- I generally like the entire dex. Most of it seems well balanced and not too far askew from the prior dex. The formations are stupid, free transports and drop pods full of devs with relentless and all that- that crap stinks- but the dex seems pretty sweet.

I'm in- for sure

I'll be outta work @ 8 but I'll swing down their either way

Consider Cotaez. Honestly, the Cult mechanicus units feel brutally slow for me. I'm loving my killclade and their mobility. The 2 breacher/dominus formation that deep strikes has me intrigued.

I'll bring 2k of stuff...

It broke in places I didn't even glue. The lance broke twice- and all the bitty antennae are long gone after 3 games

It was a mistake to outflank them

I had fun, regardless of coming in 2nd to last. I'm actually more in love with the sicarians, than the Kastelans... Dune strider is just so incredible in an army with no transport options.

So... I missplayed my Kastelans a bit- they only throw back bullets on 6s - Still a cool rule, and it was my first time playing any of those units. Also you still took the win by a large magin.

If this is 6/10 I'll try to make it- tho I might be kinda late, if it was yesterday- I'm bummed I missed it.

The only model in the whole admech line I haven't liked is the ironstrider. Everything else has been wonderful.

Don't worry. My list will, in all likely hood, be far more terrible than yours. I have but one mission that day, kill something big in an epic and cinematic way.

Super cool.

Killcade will probably be my next stop with them.

Anyone wanna get a game in versus some Admech, tomorrow?

The dunecrawler should have wrecked the Eldar vehicles. Skyfire hits skimmers. Page 171... I'd think The icarus array would be an ideal matchup vs Eldar and Necrons.

Seems like a potent list. One thing I've really been considering- break up the onager squads. The cumulative invuln sounds like a good idea- but shooting multiple targets is more important- and if something gets to them that can threaten them- well, there is a pretty good chance they'll drop either way

We'll have to see... I think so much of this new army really depends on whatever the Canticles of the Omnisiah actually do- as it stands most of the units, seem to have some pretty glaring flaws for the points investment. On the whole I'm starting to feel the Admech are overcosted for what they do- I still love them, and will continue playing them- but they mostly seem to manage to pull off some epic losses for me around turn 3 or 4.