SPaceORK Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 36 minutes ago, paxmiles said: I feel like the "couldn't" is meant to be a "could", that or the "do" is meant to be a "don't." Otherwise, not really sure why having the sponsons would make this harder... Regarding cost, the above land raider is more like $41-ish, as it's $35.98 for the models and $4-5 shipping. Though the shipping cost doesn't increase by much if you buy 2 or 3. Regarding converting sponsons, lascannons are a really common extra bit for SM players. Redeemer would be super easy, as flamers in 40k are mainly a tube, some wire, and metal mesh. Getting 6 bolters for crusader sponsons would also be pretty simple. And they don't need to look exactly like the GW one - the goal is more that it looks like you bought a full $80-ish land raider and decided to make more festive sponsons (because you are *obviously* crazy wealthy and have the cash to burn on a full kit that's only a piece of your converted unit). It would be more challenging to get the Hull Grav bits for the Land Raider Excelsior, but you might be able to get those as extras from a centurion kit. I meant "could". I've had about 4-5 land raiders NoS so I have both Las and flamer options lying about. I'd probably just do it as terrain for that price though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Anyway, links were directed at Ish, since he was talking about not having the funds for his all tank SM list. Doesn't solve the funding issue, but certainly cheaper like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Here's what I'm thinking will become my final "Take All Comers" army list. I'll still have Redemptor Dreadnaughts (I own two now), Aggressors, Inceptors, and Reivers to play with as a sort of "sideboard," but this seems like a solid force. Obviously it plays as a gunline, but Primaris Marines are generally pretty tough customers and if I'm in a match-up where I'm better off advancing I should be okay footslogging. Anti-Tank and Anti-Knight shooting is supplied by the Hellblasters and Predators, with Auxiliary Grenade Launchers throwing Krak Grenades to help out. Anti-Horde and Anti-MEQ shooting is supplied by mostly the Intercessors, with the Hellblasters helping out with really heavy infantry (TEQs). The list doesn't have any dedicated Anti-Aircraft, which could prove problematic, but that's a gamble I'm willing to take. I am considering dropping the "Double Battalion" structure, since it really limits my ability to use the Specialist Detachments from Vigilis Defiant which only affects one Detachment. I might be able to squeeze all of this into a full Brigade... Gotta crunch the numbers on that. ++ Battalion Detachment I +5CP [ 1,103 Points ] ++Chapter Selection: Imperial Fists + HQ + • Warlord Primaris Captain w/Power Fist: Plasma Pistol, Power Fist, Trait: Storm of Fire, Relic: The Armour Indomitus [ 92 Points ] • Primaris Lieutenant Power Sword [ 74 Points ] + Troops + • Intercessor Squad: 10x Stalker Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Chainsword [ 170 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Sword [ 174 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Sword [ 174 Points ] + Elites + • Primaris Ancient Bolt Rifle [ 69 Points ] + Heavy Support + • Hellblaster Squad: 10x Heavy Plasma Incinerator [ 350 Points ] ++ Battalion Detachment II +5CP [ 822 Points ] ++Chapter Selection: Imperial Fists + HQ + • Primaris Librarian: Psychic Powers: Null Zone, Smite, Veil of Time; Force Sword [ 101 Points ] • Techmarine: Bolt Pistol, Power Maul, Servo-Harness [ 60 Points ] + Troops + • Intercessor Squad: 5x Auto Bolt Rifles, 1x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Fist [ 99 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 5x Auto Bolt Rifles, 1x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Fist [ 99 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 5x Auto Bolt Rifles, 1x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Fist [ 99 Points ] + Heavy Support + • Predator Annihilator: Turret Twin Lascannon, Sponsons Two Lascannons, Pintle Storm Polter [ 182 Points ] • Predator Annihilator: Turret Twin Lascannon, Sponsons Two Lascannons, Pintle Storm Polter [ 182 Points ] ++ Fortification Network Detachment +0CP [ 75 Points ] ++ + Fortification + • Aegis Defense Line [ 75 Points ] ++ Total: [13 CP; 111 PL; 2,000 Points] ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Are you running into instances where you need the Aegis because you don't have enough cover for your marines, or is it a theme thing? Just seems like your inability to take specialist detachments is because of the fortification detachment, which isn't bringing much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I just like knowing that I can always rely on having 20-30 of my Marines in cover. 2+ Save Intercessors and Hellblasters just seem really valuable... But, no, I'm not married to the thing. Edit to Add: I can't get a Brigade to work, I keep coming up 200± Points over the limit if I include everything that I want and the "tax" units. Fooey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 So this iteration of the list has, more or less, all the same elements as the previous, but gives up a fair amount of CP... ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP [ 1,131 Points ] ++Chapter Selection: Imperial Fists + HQ + • Warlord Primaris Captain w/Power Fist: Plasma Pistol, Power Fist, Trait: Storm of Fire, Relic: The Armour Indomitus [ 92 Points ] • Primaris Lieutenant Power Sword [ 74 Points ] + Troops + • Intercessor Squad: 10x Stalker Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Chainsword [ 170 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Sword [ 174 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Sword [ 174 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Auto Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Fist [ 189 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Auto Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Fist [ 189 Points ] + Elites + • Primaris Ancient Bolt Rifle [ 69 Points ] ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP [ 869 Points ] ++Chapter Selection: Imperial Fists + HQ + • Primaris Librarian: Psychic Powers: Null Zone, Smite, Veil of Time; Force Sword [ 101 Points ] • Techmarine: Plasma Pistol, Power Maul, Servo-Arm [ 54 Points ] + Heavy Support + • Hellblaster Squad: 10x Heavy Plasma Incinerator [ 350 Points ] • Predator Annihilator: Turret Twin Lascannon, Sponsons Two Lascannons, Pintle Storm Polter [ 182 Points ] • Predator Annihilator: Turret Twin Lascannon, Sponsons Two Lascannons, Pintle Storm Polter [ 182 Points ] ++ Total: [ 9 CP; 11 PL; 2,000 Points] ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Ish said: So this iteration of the list has, more or less, all the same elements as the previous, but gives up a fair amount of CP... ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP [ 1,131 Points ] ++Chapter Selection: Imperial Fists + HQ + • Warlord Primaris Captain w/Power Fist: Plasma Pistol, Power Fist, Trait: Storm of Fire, Relic: The Armour Indomitus [ 92 Points ] • Primaris Lieutenant Power Sword [ 74 Points ] + Troops + • Intercessor Squad: 10x Stalker Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Chainsword [ 170 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Sword [ 174 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Sword [ 174 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Auto Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Fist [ 189 Points ] • Intercessor Squad: 10x Auto Bolt Rifles, 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launchers; Sergeant w/ Power Fist [ 189 Points ] + Elites + • Primaris Ancient Bolt Rifle [ 69 Points ] ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP [ 869 Points ] ++Chapter Selection: Imperial Fists + HQ + • Primaris Librarian: Psychic Powers: Null Zone, Smite, Veil of Time; Force Sword [ 101 Points ] • Techmarine: Plasma Pistol, Power Maul, Servo-Arm [ 54 Points ] + Heavy Support + • Hellblaster Squad: 10x Heavy Plasma Incinerator [ 350 Points ] • Predator Annihilator: Turret Twin Lascannon, Sponsons Two Lascannons, Pintle Storm Polter [ 182 Points ] • Predator Annihilator: Turret Twin Lascannon, Sponsons Two Lascannons, Pintle Storm Polter [ 182 Points ] ++ Total: [ 9 CP; 11 PL; 2,000 Points] ++ Couldn't your pretty easily make that into 2x battalions and 1x spearhead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 That's my "catch-22," I want to have as many of the Indomitus Crusaders Specialist Detachment eligible units* in one Detachment as possible, to make it the most efficient at applying the Specialist Detachment to them. On the other hand, the Indomitus Crusaders Specialist Detachment chews up CP like crazy, so I need to maximize the amount of CP in the list. I'd love to be able to run this as a Brigade, but I can't quite get the maths to work. * Primaris Captains, Lieutenants, Ancient, Intercessors, and Inceptors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I find your lack of tanks disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, InfestedKerrigan said: I find your lack of tanks disturbing. Does seem like the "I like tanks" aspect of the thread is more likely the chapter name, rather than an indication of how many tanks he has... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 There's two tanks in the list! Which is admittedly very few... And Space Marine tanks aren't very good tanks... Maybe I'll get a Fellblade... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyraeus Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ish said: There's two tanks in the list! Which is admittedly very few... And Space Marine tanks aren't very good tanks... Maybe I'll get a Fellblade... Miggt as well get a shadowsword Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 56 minutes ago, Lyraeus said: Miggt as well get a shadowsword I honestly never found the Shadowsword all that impressive. For roughly the same amount of points, I could field a squadron of Destroyer tank hunters, which were just as good at killing Titans if they all fired on the same target (especially in those editions were the Slick Loaders upgrade was available) and if there weren't any Titans on the table, they were far more efficient at killing super-heavies and regular tanks. "He is a loathsome, offensive brute. Yet I can't look away." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Ish said: I honestly never found the Shadowsword all that impressive. For roughly the same amount of points, I could field a squadron of Destroyer tank hunters, which were just as good at killing Titans if they all fired on the same target (especially in those editions were the Slick Loaders upgrade was available) and if there weren't any Titans on the table, they were far more efficient at killing super-heavies and regular tanks. "He is a loathsome, offensive brute. Yet I can't look away." I love those ones. I had a few converted up at one point. I think I sold them. If you are comparing FW tanks, they've really expanded the FW lines and some of them are quite impressive. Shadowsword is a GW tank at this time, so is referenced more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Oh, believe me, I’m quite familiar with all of Citadel and Forge World’s tasty, tasty tank lines... I’ve just never been as awestruck by the Baneblade and it’s variants as others. There was very rarely anything one Baneblade-chassis tank could do that couldn’t be done by a squadron of Leman Russ-chassis tanks couldn’t do as well (if not better) for the same cost. The Stormlord was a notable exception... But I never saw a need for it in my Armored Battlegroup (a couple Chimera could taxi my Poor Bloody Infantry just as well) or in my Infantry Company (they tended not to move much). For my Space Marines, my main goal in getting some tanks is getting ahold of something that can deal with Knight Titans. But I want it to be something “in faction” and preferably something “fluffy,” because I’m just wired that way. Predator Annihilators do alright at softening up a Knight are range (so a thunder hammer Captain or a Hellblaster Squad can finish it off), they’re in-faction, and being a ubiquitous Astartes tank they’re very fluffy. I’ve always liked the looks of the Predator Destructor more, but autocannons aren’t that hot against Knights. (But turrets are easily swapped.) The Vindicator is powerful, common to all Astartes, and as a siege tank it is extremely fluffy for the Imperial Fists... and it just looks cool. Going further afield, the various Land Raiders would be great, but Primaris Marines haven’t figured out how to duck yet. So they can’t get in them. The Astræus certainly packs the firepower, but it’s performance isn’t that much greater than the Fellblade... and I like the looks of the Fellblade more. If I’m going to pay these sorts of prices ($340 Astræus, $280 Fellblade) then I might as well get the one I think is prettier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 I’m not sure this is all that “competitive,” since it sinks nearly half its total budget into a single model... But it should be fun. The Dreadnoughts exist to help handle hordes through sheer weight of fire, play mêlée bodyguard for the Fellblade, and give enemy anti-tank shooting three targets to worry about. Techmarine patches them (or the big guy) up and has the mobility to get where he’s needed. The rest of the infantry grab an Objective or two and camp out on it. ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [67 PL, 1102pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Imperial Fists + HQ + Primaris Captain w/Power Fist [6 PL, 92pts]: Plasma pistol, Power fist, Storm of Fire, The Armour Indomitus, Warlord Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword Techmarine on Bike [6 PL, 102pts]: Conversion beamer, Plasma pistol, Power axe, Twin boltgun + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Stalker Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 179pts]: 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 9x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 179pts]: 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 9x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist + Elites + Primaris Ancient [5 PL, 69pts] Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 161pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 161pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon ++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - FW Adeptus Astartes) [35 PL, 898pts] ++ + Lord of War + Relic Fellblade Super-heavy Tank [35 PL, 898pts]: Heavy bolter, Twin heavy flamer . Two laser destroyers: 2x Laser destroyer ++ Total: [102 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Ish said: I’m not sure this is all that “competitive,” since it sinks nearly half its total budget into a single model... But it should be fun. The Dreadnoughts exist to help handle hordes through sheer weight of fire, play mêlée bodyguard for the Fellblade, and give enemy anti-tank shooting three targets to worry about. Techmarine patches them (or the big guy) up and has the mobility to get where he’s needed. The rest of the infantry grab an Objective or two and camp out on it. ++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [67 PL, 1102pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Imperial Fists + HQ + Primaris Captain w/Power Fist [6 PL, 92pts]: Plasma pistol, Power fist, Storm of Fire, The Armour Indomitus, Warlord Primaris Lieutenants [5 PL, 74pts] . Primaris Lieutenant: Power sword Techmarine on Bike [6 PL, 102pts]: Conversion beamer, Plasma pistol, Power axe, Twin boltgun + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 85pts]: Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Stalker Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Chainsword Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 179pts]: 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 9x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 179pts]: 2x Auxiliary Grenade Launcher, Bolt rifle . 9x Intercessor . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist + Elites + Primaris Ancient [5 PL, 69pts] Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 161pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon Redemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 161pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Icarus Rocket Pod, Onslaught Gatling Cannon ++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - FW Adeptus Astartes) [35 PL, 898pts] ++ + Lord of War + Relic Fellblade Super-heavy Tank [35 PL, 898pts]: Heavy bolter, Twin heavy flamer . Two laser destroyers: 2x Laser destroyer ++ Total: [102 PL, 2000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Looks cool, but I'm noting that you are down to a single tank...the whole "I like tanks" idea doesn't seem to be a thing in your lists. Honestly, think thread should change to "I like Intercessors" as they seem to be the common unit between lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 You gotta have basic troops. Tanks and giant stompy robots are great for killing people and breaking things, but you need a pair of boots carrying a rifle if you want to hold ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ish said: You gotta have basic troops. Tanks and giant stompy robots are great for killing people and breaking things, but you need a pair of boots carrying a rifle if you want to hold ground. ....but your list in the thread "I like tanks" doesn't even have tanks plural in it, just one tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, paxmiles said: ....but your list in the thread "I like tanks" doesn't even have tanks plural in it, just one tank. I think it’s clear this thread has drifted from my theoretical tank-heavy Space Marine list to me just theorizing about lists in general... But, if you want tanks, here. Have some tanks: ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [121 PL, 2000pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Valhallan + HQ + Tank Commander [12 PL, 217pts]: Augur array, Heavy Stubber, Hunter-Killer Missile, Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Relic: Kurov's Aquila, Warlord, WT (Valhallan): Tenacious . Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon + Elites + Atlas Recovery Tank [5 PL, 106pts]: Heavy bolter, Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile + Heavy Support + Leman Russ Battle Tanks [30 PL, 462pts] . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber Leman Russ Battle Tanks [20 PL, 326pts] . Leman Russ Demolisher: Dozer blade, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Stubber, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon . Leman Russ Demolisher: Dozer blade, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Stubber, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon Malcador Heavy Tank [15 PL, 248pts]: 2 Autocannons, Battle cannon, Heavy bolter, Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile Stygies Destroyer Tank Hunter [24 PL, 336pts] . Styges Destroyer Tank Hunter: Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile . Styges Destroyer Tank Hunter: Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile + Flyer + Thunderbolt Heavy Fighter [15 PL, 305pts]: 6 Skystrike Missiles, 2x Twin autocannon, Twin lascannon ++ Total: [121 PL, 2000pts] ++ Nine Leman Russ-chassis, one pseudo super-heavy, and a nasty little close air support surprise for anything that tries to outflank me. Loan me about $1,200 and this can be on a table near you in 6-8 weeks. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ish said: I think it’s clear this thread has drifted from my theoretical tank-heavy Space Marine list to me just theorizing about lists in general... I am teasing you, but also seriously suggesting you change the name of the thread, now that the topic has changed. To change the title, edit the original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 50 minutes ago, Ish said: ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [121 PL, 2000pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Valhallan + HQ + Tank Commander [12 PL, 217pts]: Augur array, Heavy Stubber, Hunter-Killer Missile, Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Relic: Kurov's Aquila, Warlord, WT (Valhallan): Tenacious . Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon + Elites + Atlas Recovery Tank [5 PL, 106pts]: Heavy bolter, Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile + Heavy Support + Leman Russ Battle Tanks [30 PL, 462pts] . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber . Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Heavy Stubber Leman Russ Battle Tanks [20 PL, 326pts] . Leman Russ Demolisher: Dozer blade, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Stubber, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon . Leman Russ Demolisher: Dozer blade, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Stubber, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon Malcador Heavy Tank [15 PL, 248pts]: 2 Autocannons, Battle cannon, Heavy bolter, Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile Stygies Destroyer Tank Hunter [24 PL, 336pts] . Styges Destroyer Tank Hunter: Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile . Styges Destroyer Tank Hunter: Heavy Stubber, Hunter-killer missile + Flyer + Thunderbolt Heavy Fighter [15 PL, 305pts]: 6 Skystrike Missiles, 2x Twin autocannon, Twin lascannon ++ Total: [121 PL, 2000pts] ++ Nine Leman Russ-chassis, one pseudo super-heavy, and a nasty little close air support surprise for anything that tries to outflank me. Loan me about $1,200 and this can be on a table near you in 6-8 weeks. 😁 Why do this to yourself? I mean, there's loads cheaper ways to do a tank army than to dwell on a $1200 army you can't afford. Anyway. Destroyer tank hunters and atlas are out of production. So those you may as well make from happymeal toys, as you can't really get real ones (I was looking for a while on ebay). Thunderbolt is $151 on FW, but since that version of the FW kit no longer includes all the pieces (doesn't come with the missiles and FW no longer sells them), so there's really little reason to buy that one either. I suggest converting if you really want that model. Then you have 6x russes, which are $347 new ($294.95 with typical 15% off). Malacador is another $150 direct from FW. It's a nice tank, but 3x russes is probably better and those can get the typical 15% off GW. And for clarity, GW has made an offically max 15% off advertised GW sales. So most websites selling new models, like amazon, sell everything at 15% off. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002AKH9FC/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new Leman Russ brand new, amazon prime free 2 day shipping, $42.08 each is the low price. GG has that game night 15% off in you are in their league, so same price if you like shopping locally (which I do like). Still very expensive, but should be able to whip out a solid 12 leman russ tank army for ~$600 new on sprue, and much less if buying used tanks or converting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 And pure tank armies are terrible, but if you really want to go that route, about 5 land raiders is a full 2k army. At 15% off, should be $315.56. You'd need to acquire a hull TL grav cannon for the Excelcior HQ land raider if you wanted pure tanks, but one does exist in that SW flyer (Another $68.85 at 15% off, though that part isn't entirely needed for that kit, so you could trade for it, or sell the rest of the kit to mitigate some of your losses in the conversion). Ebay is selling the actual kit (which includes HQ rhino too) for $230, if you actually want the real one. Set is in no short supply, it's just a Warhammer World Exclusive model (so it's a plane ticket to buy one new otherwise, so the ebay route isn't terrible if you want the real one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ish Posted January 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Last time I did a massive expansion of my Armored Battlegroup (three Russ Conquerors and an Atlas) I bought used “regular” ones on eBay, striped the paint, and bought three turrets from FW. The Atlas was made by adding some strategically placed plasticard, stowage bins, and the tow hook/winch from a dollar store tow truck. These days I’d probably get the turrets from Shapeways, Puppets War, or wherever. I’m not actually interested in going back to the Imperial Guard. I’m probably going to take your advice and buy some Rhino-chassis sprue frames from Horde’O’Bits, snag some third-party turrets, and make some Predators and Vindicators that way. Still kicking around alternatives to the Repulsor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Ish said: Still kicking around alternatives to the Repulsor. Have you considered an actual brick on a flying stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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