WestRider Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Yeah, not sure I feel about a SW Flyer. On the one hand, I kind of would have liked to see them just get some really good ground-bound Anti-Air instead. On the other, that looks pretty badass, and striking like lightning from a clear sky is fun :) What I really want for SW, tho, is for one of the designers to remember the bit of fluff from the 3rd Ed Dex that said that Fenrisian Wolves could get as big as Rhino APCs, and do an oval-based TWC MC XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 People would bitch so hard though. Heck, just use TWC without riders as a unit. That'd be badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 I was actually thinking of hunting up some big wolf toy of about the right size and modeling a bunch of harnesses and grab handles and stuff on the back along with some weapons and using it as a counts-as Rhino/Razorback. Might still have to get around to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 via an must remain anonymous source on Faeit 212Your information on space wolves main units is a bit off.Grey Hunters are not cheaper, they are still 15/model.They come with Bolter, Bolt Pistol, grenades, ATSKNF, Counter Attack and Acute Senses.They can have one model upgraded to a Wolf Guard, for +10 points, who gets +1Ld/attack and access to wargear. (Same as veteran sergeants, except that if not taken, there isn't a "character" in the unit the way normal sergeants are).They can take 1 special weapon, or 2 at 10 man. They are limited only to special weapons and not heavy as per normal. They pay the same points as space marines now, not a discount and not a free one at 10.They can also take plasma pistols at 1 per 5 in addition to special weapons.They can swap their bolter for a chainsword at no cost, on a model-by-model basis, and it specifies that it must also be represented on the model.Wolf banners are still in, but aren't as good and cost 15 points not 10.Bloodclaws are 13 points per model, minimum 5 up to 20. Similar as above for upgrades. Unlike what's in stormclaw, if you upgrade a Bloodclaw to a Wolf Guard he gets +1 WS and BS (to take him to 4/4). They have rage now instead of their former +d3 attacks on the charge.Wolf Guard terminators are now an entry, as are Wolf Guard non terminators, so no mixing and matching. No more pack leader separating of Wolf Guard to join other squads. Just upgrades in unit.While I'm sure that a lot of people will be flipping over the loss of certain iconic character elements for space wolves, the new stuff in the book isn't just "Wolf This" "Wolf That" and they still remain sufficiently divergent from normal marines, with points costs that are now in line with them. Though I won't deny that they definitely were toned down in a lot of ways (that they weren't really overpowered in by any real means) they have been compensated for by gaining access to things like space marine AA tanks, a new flyer and some really nifty formations.Logan Grimnar and Bjorn are Lords of War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Interesting that they don't have bolter/bp/ccw anymore. Definitely makes the blood claws more appealing as an assault unit in comparison. Lot of that stuff makes sense. I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 The wolf flyer.... Isn't there some fluff reason they didn't have these in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrizic Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Looks like SW will be getting the Tyranid treatment, I know it's early but if those rumors carry any weight.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted July 20, 2014 Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 The wolf flyer.... Isn't there some fluff reason they didn't have these in the past? Sealed shut windows means they can't stick their heads out;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Looks like SW will be getting the Tyranid treatment, I know it's early but if those rumors carry any weight....The tyranids didn't get it bad at all. Also, nothing here looks bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 The wolf flyer.... Isn't there some fluff reason they didn't have these in the past?The deep strike prohibition was widely interpreted to include flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 Interesting that they don't have bolter/bp/ccw anymore. Definitely makes the blood claws more appealing as an assault unit in comparison. Lot of that stuff makes sense. I like it. Just keep in mind this is from Natfka and he's anything but reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spagunk Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Though I can't post them right now, Images for the storm claw are up online. It's magnificently ugly but I actually kind of like it. It's like the cestus ram and stormtalon mashed together. Very "Viking barge". But still quite hideous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have to say, I think I like it. Really does capture the Viking Longboat feel. More pics at 3++, along with some details that seem like that match what's already been posted here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 From 3++: Stormwolf – Fast Attack – Points = Land Raider minus 35BS4 – F12 S12 R12 HP3 – Vehicle (Flyer, Hover, Transport) Wargear:Twin-linked helfrost cannonTwin-linked lascannonTwo twin-linked heavy bolters – May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas for 20ptsCeramite Plating Special Rules:Assault VehiclePower of the Machine Spirit Transport:Transport Capacity – sixteen modelsFire Points – noneAccess Points – One ramp at the front of the hull Stormfang Gunship – Heavy Support – Points = Land Raider minus 30BS4 – F12 S12 R12 HP3 – Vehicle (Flyer, Hover Transport) Wargear:Helfrost destructorTwo twin-linked heavy bolters – May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas for 20 ptsTwo Stormstrike missiles – May be replaced with a twin-linked lascannon for 15 ptsCeramite Plating Special Rules:Power of the Machine Spirit Transport:Transport Capacity – six modelsFire Points – noneAccess Points – One at rear of the hull Helfrost cannondispersed – R24″ S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Blastfocussed – R24″ S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost Helfrost destructordispersed – R24″ S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Large Blastfocussed – R24″ S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Lance Helfrost – If a model suffers one or more unsaved wounds from this weapon, it must pass a separate Strength test for each wound suffered or be removed from play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Holy crap do I want one now! Floki! Build me one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pretre Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Horrible pictures: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Doesn't that look like the assault ram or am I crazy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Doesn't that look like the assault ram or am I crazy? It's supposed to, so yes. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andozane Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Mini Caestus Ram... I think it looks awesome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Obviously Photoshop... If it were real they'd have a wolf-frost cannon, wolf-bite missiles and a wolf-wolf ramp. ;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Obviously Photoshop... If it were real they'd have a wolf-frost cannon, wolf-bite missiles and a wolf-wolf ramp. ;) Fifth edition called; They want their joke back. :( 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Don't be a poo! It's still funny to me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Don't be a poo! It's still funny to me! I'm over it. Along with comparing every new release to an 80's toy. Or complaining about Mat Ward, etc so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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