WestRider Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'm planning on picking up a bunch of TWC Storm Shields and putting them along the sides. Not sure about changing the prow, tho, I kind of like the blunt Assault Ramp look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 There's also the 'murderfang' will try and upload a picture of Bjorn Automatically Appended Next Post: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Big glut of new Info from Natfka via Warseer: http://natfka.blogspot.com/2014/07/space-wolf-codex-information-and-leaked.html via Little Bird on Warseer http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?397904-Codex-Space-Wolves-Information Keep in mind: My source only had a few minutes alone with the book, and there is an enormous amount of information in a codex, so they couldn't get everything. If anything more makes it to me, I will edit the OP. General Information about Codex: Space Wolves Sagas are out, replaced with Warlord Traits 6 new Space Wolves Tactical Objectives New Space Wolves Psychic Discipline: Tempestas (Source didn't get any actual rules though) 'Space Wolves Unleashed' Detachment FOC: Identical to standard FOC, except may take up to 6 HQs May re-roll Warlord Traits Each unit joined by an Independent Character rolls a d6, on a 6+ that unit gains Outflank. Troops choices get +2 on this roll. Great Company Formation: 1 Wolf Lord 1 Wolf Guard Battle Leader 1 unit of Wolf Guard 5 units of Grey Hunters 1 unit of Wolf Scouts 5 units chosen from [blood Claws, Swiftclaws, or Skyclaws] 2 units of Long Fangs Grants two special rules, source did not get them Space Wolves Relics (Source didn't get rules, just name and type of item) Armor of Russ (Armor) Bite of Fenris (Bolter with two fire modes) Black Death (Frost Axe, Rule: Whirldwind of Death) Helm of Durfast (Wargear) Fangsword of the Ice Wolf (Frost Sword) Wulfenstone (Wargear) Logan Grimnar - Lord of War Epic new model, comes with a sort of grav-chariot called 'Stormrider' pulled by two enormous Fenrisian wolves, but he can be used without it as well. Stormrider Treated as a vehicle, didn't get AVs, has a 4+ Invulnerable save and cannot suffer Penetrating hits (all Pens are reduced to Glances). Gives Logan 4 S5 Ap- attacks on a turn when he charges. Logan loses Deep Strike if he takes Stormrider Lots of other cool rules, but didn't get those. Njal Stormcaller No new model shown in codex Looked to be mostly the same, no specific information Ragnar Blackmane No new model shown in codex Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information Ulrik the Slayer No new model shown in codex Also looked to be mostly the same, no specific information Canis Wolfborn Again, looked to be mostly the same, no specific information Harald Deathwolf The resin Thunderwolf Cavalry character model assigned a name Didn't get the rules/stats. Bjorn the Fell-Handed Epic new plastic model, part of a box that makes a regular SW Venerable Dreadnought, Bjorn, or a new special character Dreadnought named 'Murderfang'. No longer becomes a VP objective when he dies. Wolf Lord Mostly the same, no specific information. Rune Priest Mostly the same. Specifically noted as starting at Mastery Level 2. No other information. Wolf Priest Mostly the same, no specific information Wolf Guard Battle Leader Mostly the same, no specific information Blood Claws Pack Wolf Guard Leader upgrade available May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport No other information Lukas the Trickster No specific information, probably the same. Grey Hunters Pack Any model may add a Close Combat Weapon for +2 points One Special weapon per full five models still, but costs raised to same as C:SMs Wolf Guard Upgrade available May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport No other information Dreadnought Not sure, but might have an option for a Helfrost Cannon Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information Murderfang Crazy-awesome special character Venerable Dreadnought Wolverine + Dreadnought + Extra Insanity = Murderfang Wargear: Searchlight 'Murderclaws' with underslung Storm Bolter and Heavy Flamer Special Rules: Furious Charge It Will Not Die Rage Rampage Murderlust Options: May take a Drop Pod 'Murderclaws' - A pair of enormous, even for a Dreadnought, Lightning Claws made of 'alien ice that never melts or loses sharpness' S7 AP2 - Melee, Master-Crafted, Shred, Specialist Weapon Venerable Dreadnought Definitely has an option for a Helfrost Cannon Can also have an enormous Power Axe and Storm Shield, said to look incredible. Some special rules, but didn't get them Iron Priest No new model shown in codex Options appeared to be nearly identical to old codex, Can take a unit of 1-5 Servitors, rules also looked the same as old codex No other information Lone Wolf Rules nearly identical to old codex, didn't get points cost Owning player no longer gains a VP if they die No other information Wolf Guard Pack This unit is just for Wolf Guard in Power Armor. Have a similarly wide array of options as in the old codex, couldn't get specifics though May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport Wolf Guard Terminator Pack What it says on the tin, Wolf Guard in TDA with Storm Bolter and Power Weapon base Options (any model in the unit can take these, this isn't all of the options though): Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield Pair of Wolf Claws Power Fist Frost Axes Frost Sword Combi-weapon Heavy Flamer Assault Cannon Cyclone Missile Launcher May take a Stormwolf as a Dedicated Transport Arjac Rockfist Mostly the same, no specific information Wolf Scouts Source totally forgot to look at them. Sorry guys. Swiftclaw Pack Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information Skyclaw Assault Pack Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information Thunderwolf Cavalry Otherwise similar to old codex, no other information As noted previously: Stormwolf - Fast Attack BS4 - F12 S12 R12 HP3 - Vehicle (Flyer, Hover, Transport) Wargear: Twin-linked helfrost cannon Twin-linked lascannon Two twin-linked heavy bolters - May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas Ceramite Plating Special Rules: Assault Vehicle Power of the Machine Spirit Transport: Transport Capacity - sixteen models Fire Points - none Access Points - One ramp at the front of the hull Stormfang Gunship - Heavy Support BS4 - F12 S12 R12 HP3 - Vehicle (Flyer, Hover Transport) Wargear: Helfrost destructor Two twin-linked heavy bolters - May be replaced with a Skyhammer launcher for free, or two twin-linked multi-meltas Two Stormstrike missiles - May be replaced with a twin-linked lascannon Ceramite Plating Special Rules: Power of the Machine Spirit Transport: Transport Capacity - six models Fire Points - none Access Points - One at rear of the hull Helfrost cannon dispersed - R24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Blast focussed - R24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost Helfrost destructor dispersed - R24" S6 AP3 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Large Blast focussed - R24" S8 AP1 Heavy 1, Helfrost, Lance Helfrost - If a model suffers one or more unsaved wounds from this weapon, it must pass a separate Strength test for each wound suffered or be removed from play Land Speeder Squadron Same as Codex: Space Marines Fenrisian Wolf Pack Nearly identical to old codex, no specific information Long Fangs Pack Couple of new options for squad leader, who is now called a 'Long Fang Ancient' Source did not get if they had an option for Flakk Missiles Might be able to take a Stormwolf/Stormfang as a Dedicated Transport, not sure about this though Otherwise nearly identical to old codex, no other information Predator Same as Codex: Space Marines Whirlwind Same as Codex: Space Marines Vindicator Same as Codex: Space Marines Land Raider and variants Same as Codex: Space Marines Rhino and Razorback No Helfrost Cannon option for the Razorback, same as Codex: Space Marines Drop Pod Same as Codex: Space Marines Notable Exclusions from Codex: Space Marines No Stormtalon No Storm Raven No Hunter or Stalker Space Wolves AA options: Stormwolf, Stormfang, ADL gun emplacement, and Allies I do NOT like what I'm hearing so far IF this is true. 2pts for GH to get a CCW? 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WestRider Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'm a fan of this. 16 Points for GH as they stand seems reasonable to me. And honestly, I'm just relieved they didn't lose the option entirely. I saw this elsewhere with some added information about Points cost reductions. GH dropping a Point base, so they're only one more with the CCW. BC and Skyclaws down 3 Points per Model, Swiftclaws down 5, TWC down 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 If all this is true, I can see myself buying a lot of new minis for the first time in years: 2 x Stormfang 1 x Codex 1 x Ven Dread New Logan? I love the flyer and can see myself fielding one transport (for a big BC squad, plus Ded Trans!!!) and one of the assault ships (+5 GH for ObSec). The idea of a Ven Dread with Axe and SS is just so sexy that I don't know what to say either. Hoo boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yeah, I'm pretty sure my bank account is going to be sobbing after this all drops. And that's not even counting all the FMCs I'm thinking of picking up to run Skyblight at the Ambassador Tournament :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 And I think I've said it before but Ven dread with Power Axe and Storm Shield? Holy crap, where do I sign up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Dammit, now I want to do a full progression, with a PG WG, then TDA WG, then Dread, all kitted out like that, as the same dude through the course of his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Dammit, now I want to do a full progression, with a PG WG, then TDA WG, then Dread, all kitted out like that, as the same dude through the course of his career. That's excellent! I'm looking at how I want to play with Krom now (speaking of conversion) since his rules are pretty lackluster. Luckily, it looks like he's easy to convert to other loadouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Actually, I should take that even a couple of steps further, start him off as a Blood Claw with just a Chain-axe (I've converted up a bunch of those for my SW), then a GH with Power Axe, then he gets a Storm Shield when he joins the Wolf Guard. And maybe a bionic arm, to give an idea of what he did to be selected for the Wolf Guard and why he chose to pick up a Storm Shield as his first bit of new kit when he got in ;) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.com/2014/07/rumores-imagenes-exclusivas-de-la-nueva.html Holy crap, the Storm Shield Dread is real! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 OMG I'm going to be broke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I'm not going to lie, this [big bad swear word] looks tight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Also glad that they didn't change the size or basic shape of Bjorn, so mine is still relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fluger Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 15 blood claws and a character coming out of one of those things is going to be a pretty effective assault unit. I like that that is a real option now because the points difference between them and Grey Hunters is now significant enough that it makes sense to bring BCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah, plus the wolf priest will mitigate the WS issue (which happens now) and they get pure rage instead of 'can't shoot rage'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Damnit...I really need to stop paying attention to GW. I have to say the new Space Wolves stuff is looking really cool. It also didn't help to get a close look at the models in Stormclaw. I really like how much character the SW have for marines. I have a sizeable salamander army already, but for the most part, its just green marines. When you look at a SW force, you know its SW. And the new assault craft is really sweet looking. If I can dump my 'nids, I don't see how I can resist picking up this army. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 15 blood claws and a character coming out of one of those things is going to be a pretty effective assault unit. I like that that is a real option now because the points difference between them and Grey Hunters is now significant enough that it makes sense to bring BCs. Since this will be my next new army ill likely be starting up mixing them with AM,would it be possible to squeeze in a Ministorium Priest with those guys,for the save rerolls of course:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yep, a couple priests would be hilarious in there. I was thinking of using scouts + marauders + SW bits to make some. Noodling ideas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I hope we see some Legion Love like this sometime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Not to beat a dead horse, but I hope in the not too distant future, we see GW put this level of effort into the Chaos Legions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 Aha. I think they did. And by they, I mean FW. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I mean, yeah, we have the PH units currently. Plus the couple of Nurgle and World Eater units they've produced. That said, you know as well as I do that it isn't the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. In it's accessibility or in it's price. Alas, that's not what this thread is about, so I don't want to further derail it. Needless to say, I do like Unbound rules for cross utilization now. :) SW TWC Juggy Riders, BA AssTroop Raptors, etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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