Talapas Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Gonna be trying to get a Legions of Chaos Khorne list together for the brawl and my list is currently hitting around a 17 in Swedish comp. I have a few ideas for tweaks, but nothing too game changing. My current list has billy the bloodthirsty with exalted gift and lesser gift. Thinking about switching to four lesser gifts. Not sure though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Gogo khorne. If I were to play chaos it would be khorne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudra34 Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 People say that they take 4 lesser in a lot of forums, but the book says that a single model can have no more than 2 of each type. Either way, consider going with 2 greater. The bloodthirster already has insane damage output, and with greater gifts you are likely to make him a little more survivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindog Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 As long as you don't go double Greater Daemons........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 curious, did they account for legions on swedish? i thought i read somewhere that they didnt.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicFlava Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 They did not and iirc don't plan to consider it until all legion lists are released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romes Posted December 31, 2014 Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Black Sheep mentioned that they were going to do some kind of addition to the comp to allow for legions - since they're using it as a guideline in a pass/fail list building system rather than a score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talapas Posted December 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2014 Black Sheep mentioned that they were going to do some kind of addition to the comp to allow for legions - since they're using it as a guideline in a pass/fail list building system rather than a score. Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassicFlava Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Yeah I wasn't talking about the black sheep guys but the Swedish guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 So, I've been working on a Dwarf list for the brawl and I came up with a swedish score 18. It doesn't look like a soft list either. There's two units vanguarding, ambushers, and three war machines. I just found the 18 to be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraf Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 It's possible. But you may be calculating it wrong. Post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Generic: -13Master Rune of Grungi -5Rune of Slowness -1Rune of Spellbreaking -7War Machine Points: 17 (-12)Lords: 350 points (-10)(-10) Ungrim IronfistHeroes: 195 points (-4 pts.)(-3) Thane * Battle Standard Bearer * Great Weapon * Master Rune of Grungi * Strollaz' Rune(-1) Runesmith * Great weapon (6 pts.) * Rune of Stone (5 pts.) * Rune of Spellbreaking (25 pts.)(70 pts.) Master Engineer (70 pts.) * 1 War machine pointCore: 795 points (-33)(-5) 10 Quarrellers * Musician * Standard bearer * Shields * Great weapons(-28) 40 Longbeards * Full command * Great weapons * Rune of SlownessSpecial: 890 points (-39)(-7) 15 Miners * Standard bearer(-16) 30 Slayers * Standard bearer * 2 Rune of Slowness * Strollaz' Rune(-9) Cannon * Rune of Forging * 6 War machine points(-7) Grudge Thrower * Rune of Accuracy * Rune of Forging * 4 War machine pointsRare: 165 points (-9)(-9) Organ Gun * Rune of Penetrating * Rune of Burning * 6 War machine pointsTotal Points: 2395Swedish Comp Score: 18 (-120) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraf Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I came up with a 17.1 with quick math. But I believe the Swedish comp is pretty accurate. This is a very kind Dwarf list. No killer characters, no hammerers, only a single dispel scroll. Looks like a fine list, but I wouldn't be very afraid of it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 yea i think you forgot the -10 for bsb MN.(unless its in generic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I knew I was missing something, thanks for the catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I came up with a 17.1 with quick math. But I believe the Swedish comp is pretty accurate. This is a very kind Dwarf list. No killer characters, no hammerers, only a single dispel scroll. Looks like a fine list, but I wouldn't be very afraid of it at all. I don't think it's something to be afraid of, it just seems like it should be around a 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 also no copters is quite interesting. ive never found my lists to work well without at least 2. miners without the drill is also risky. with a vanguard list it really helps to have the multiple threat be there when you need them for possible rear/flank charges. its so annoying to not have them come for a few turns when you need them. so im jealous you get to try ungrim out before me. gosh i forgot he's WS9!! :) i was also pondering that for brawl ha. one thing i would think about changing is the 2 runes of slowness on the slayers. i just think that its 'rare' when you actually have something charge slayers. most people just avoid them if they can and they probably will moreso when you have a killy lord like ungrim which can murder guys(with KB to infantry and D3 wounds to monsters not many things want to touch him..). rune of battle would be a sneaky choice on them because ive found that slayers either win big, win or lose by a few. static CR would be pretty great with them... but if anything you should do is throw a rune of stone on with those last 5 points on the engineer. always a great last 5 point 'give away' i find. fun build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Good points, dontpanic. I have been building dwarf and dark elf lists for two days and I have no idea what I am going to bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 The BSB ET comp seems off to me with things like Blightkings and Glottkin being hit a little too hard while the mixed lists themselves suffer minor penalties at most. I know my LoC list scores a 14.8 with a not-so-soft list. That said, I think Swedish is pretty messed up in terms of competitve comp anyway and should be viewed more as a reason to put models rarely seen onto the table. This is my list so far (mostly stuff I painted up for the last Sparkle Party and things I want painted for the next one): Doombull: Armour of Destiny; Arabyan Carpet; great weapon; Mark of Tzeentch 360 Sorceror Lord: Talisman of Preservation; Charmed Shield; Level 4 Wizard; Lore of Metal; Mark of Tzeentch; Disc of Tzeentch 365 Exalted Hero: Talisman of Endurance; Enchanted Shield; Dragonbane Gem; Mark of Tzeentch; Daemonic Mount; Battle Standard Bearer 220 Gorebull: Blackened Plate; Gnarled Hide; shield; Mark of Tzeentch 209 Chaos Chariot 110 Chaos Chariot 110 28 Chaos Marauders: Mark of Tzeentch; shield; light armour; Marauder Chieftain; musician; standard bearer 310 5 Ungor Raiders: Mark of Slaanesh 35 5 Ungor Raiders: Mark of Slaanesh 35 Chimera: Regenerating Flesh 245 5 Chaos Trolls: additional hand weapons 190 Chaos Giant: Giant of Khorne 210 2,399 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 That's an interesting list. I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iraf Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Looks good Kremmet. Can't wait to see how the Doombull in the Troll unit fares. Looks like it will be pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Looks good Kremmet. Can't wait to see how the Doombull in the Troll unit fares. Looks like it will be pretty sweet. Doombull doesn't go with the the trolls, but the Gorebull does. The biggest problem with that unit is that they fail Stupidity more often than I would like to admit. I ran a very similar list at SPDM 4 and it did very well. Granted I didn't run stinky Marauders there, but the Herdstone Horrors weren't very helpful beyond scaring my opponents so I'm not super worried. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudra34 Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Stupidity, bloodgreed, and not having a musician REALLY hurts the troll unit. Still, it is a pain to deal with if you get stuck in combat against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don't Panic Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 new ungrim incarnate of fire... i want to use him lol. SLÀAÁYERS gonna slaaaaay! seriously im pondering doing a massive unit of slayers... and watching everyone avoid them all game lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Stupidity, bloodgreed, and not having a musician REALLY hurts the troll unit. Still, it is a pain to deal with if you get stuck in combat against them. Don't forget that my army maxes out at Ld 8! The trolls are a very fun unit to run and are more for that than effectiveness. That said, they are dead 'ard and extremely dangerous to try to fight around which is half the fun of a chaos list. I also view Bloodgreed as a boon about as often as a curse given how easy it is to bait a Ld 7 Frenzied unit. new ungrim incarnate of fire... i want to use him lol. SLÀAÁYERS gonna slaaaaay! seriously im pondering doing a massive unit of slayers... and watching everyone avoid them all game lol Ehh, I've been running Slayers in my dwarf armies since I started them. They're avoidable, sure, but they're also great at long bombing charges and counter charging monsters that get stuck into your lines. The first time I put them into my list I thought I was just adding a very iconic unit to a fun list, but the more I've played with them the more I've realized how good Slayers are. That is, as long as you fudge Deathblow into a usable rule. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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