rudra34

I think Everyone is overreacting to the list a bit. The unit of big dwarfs is not insane, people bring units of 30+warriors in a regular dwarf list and no one bats an eyes. These aren't any better, and they are very expensive with the fireglaves (which are only so-so). Also, it has zero character support, making it not a death star by definition. The bull centaurs are essentially weaker dragon ogres, which no one ever sees because they are considered to be a mediocre unit. The general is on a big, easy-to-shoot target. He is also the level 4, so if you bring him down then the army is really going to suffer. There are no war machines, and the Chaos Dwarfs can bring some nasty ones if they wanted to. The only thing real terrible about this list is the destroyer, and even that has ways that it can be dealt with. Honestly I don't see what all the fuss is about. The list has some great punch to it, but don't seem nuts to me.

Thanks a ton! I wont be at wow until the weekend after father's day, so you have plenty of time to get it there.

They are alright. Being S4 except for on the charge really hurts them, but they can be used as a decent support unit, or to deal with chaff.

That depends. Is it also up the yang?

Does anybody have an extra rulebook, either the small version or large, that they are willing to sell or part with? I am in need of one and would appreciate not having to pay out the yang for it. Thanks!

Oh no, I know what rule it is. I was just clarifying because the title of the thread and the first post both say "predictors fighter." I allow it to work for supporting attacks when I play against lizards, but I have no power here!

Predatory fighter?

Even with a strong vamp this list seems good to me. If he wants to be with a good unit he is pretty much stuck in with the grave gaurd. The ghouls and skellies will get killed off quickly and be too much of a liability to possibly have the vamp crumble.

That is awesome! Really blown away by this project.

You are allowed to use the base that the model came with. The old Carni is on a 50x50, the knew is on a 50x100. Either are legal to use if they came with the model when you bought it. If you want to bump up to the 50x100 then no one will mind. There is a slight advantage to being on a smaller base as you have smaller flanks and fewer models can attack you back.

You got it, the harassment has begun!

Done and done, thanks for the link.

Bringing a Thundertusk? The list is accepted! It's too bad that you can't bring the demons, but it is a lot of work to do on top of the beast project. This list looks very balanced to me, it should be fun to play against.

That's awesome! I feel like a dick for not bringing cash for the raffle, is it too late to make a donation?

Also, thanks to everybody who complimented me on the army and my conversions. It helps to motivate me to get it all painted up!

RAMPAGE RESULTS!! I had a blast at the rampage, and played against 4 great opponents. Here's a quick summery of the games. My list: Great Bray Shaman - Beasts, Level 4, Fencer's blades, Talismen of Endurance Wargor - BSB, Beast Banner, Gnarled Hide, Heavy Armor, Shield 49 Gors - Extra Hand Weapon, Full Command (both characters) 5 Ungor Raiders 5 Ungor Raiders Tuskgor Chariot Razorgor Razorgor 5 Harpies 10 Centigors - Standard, Musician Giant Ghorgon Game 1: Kill Mr. Lucky - vs. John's Empire Empire List: Grand Master with runefang Wizard Lord with Light BsB Captain Warrior priest on foot Warrior priest mounted 40 halberds 5 archer detachment 10 Inner circle knights 3 demigryphs 5 pistoliers Steam Tank John got the first turn. He moved his halberds into a tower at the center, the knights and demis shuffled forward, and the stank went about 13 inches forward after blowing a wound off of itself. I had to deal with the steam tank before it started to cannon/grind down my army, so I charged my big block forward into it. I got off savage beast on the BSB and great shaman, who then made quick work of the tank by killing it off in one round. His knights got a charge off on my ghorgon, and while I took many wounds, I managed to eat his mister lucky and gain a few back. I tried to combo charge the knights in the flanks with a razorgor and a chariot, but I didn't do a single wound to him and broke. The gors took a few turns killing off halberds in the tower, so john backed them out away from my charge range. Instead, I charged just my shaman into his halberds and began to kill the characters off one by one. A miscast took care of all but one halberd, and the last wound from his BSB. He won the game in victory points, but I managed to get full scenario points and stayed in the room of fame. Game 2: Moving Tower - vs. Dirk's Dwarfs. Dwarf List: Lord on Shieldbearers with GW Thayne BSB with GW Runesmith Runesmith 20ish Longbeards hw/s 16ish crossbows 20 slayers 27 hammerers Dirk started with his crossbows in the tower. It quickly banged them into a river, killing several. I got my centigors to charge it and they killed about 6 more, but where promptly reduced to 2 models after the tower ran over them in the next turn. The tower continued through my army and then spent literally the entire game just ramming itself into a corner in my deployment zone. I got into combat with his slayers and my gor unit then cast Transformation on my shaman. With a giant dragon in the unit, I had no trouble killing the slayers off in one round. However, they did enough wounds back to kill my shaman when the spell was ended in the next turn. My giant and gorgon managed to get rid of most of the longbeards, but not the characters. In the final turns I killed off his runesmiths, longbeards, and hammeres with my gors. However, his characters were too tough to beat and we ended the game without either of them taking a wound. Game Three: Blood, Glory, and Monsters - Andrew's Lizards Lizard List Oldblood on Carno Skink Chief on Ancient Steg 10 Skink Skirmishers 10 Skink Skirmishers 3 krox with 30ish skinks 5 Chameleons 5 Chameleons Steg Ancient Steg with Engine This battle was kept almost entirely on one side of the table due to a massive hill which made the other side all dangerous terrain. I quickly moved into the tower at the center with the hopes of taking out his monsters with amber spear while I avoided getting poisoned to death by shooting. A few lucky charges got my giant and chariot into combat with skinks who they sent running accross the board. After that my monsters got locked in with his skrox, and couldn't kill enough of them off to break steadfast before his stegs got over and beat me to death. It was a great game, but in the end it was a clear victory for the lizards. Game 4: King of the Hill - vs. Nathan's Dark Elves Dark Elf List: Dreadlord on cold one BsB on Cold one level 2 dark on horse level 2 dark 10 corsairs 10 Crossbows 10 Crossbows 5 Dark Riders 18 Blackgaurd Hydra 9 cold ones For this battle we spent most of the time trying to get into good position for charges. In the end he managed to grind out my gors with his hydra (11 hits with the breath weapon, ouch!) and cold ones. If we had time for another turn I could have had a chance to get my monsters into his cold ones, but we ran out of time and he got a good victory. A very fun game that I got slapped around in :) All in all it was a great event, and everyone I played was awesome. Can't wait to see you all at OFCC!! Edited for spelling Dirk with an 'e'. What is wrong weth me?

Looking forward to the rampage tomorrow, though I didn't get as much time to paint and prepare as I would have liked. When I get home from work tonight I want to get the ghorgon finished and finish basing my first 5 centigors. The rest of the army will have to wait!

Prepare the room of shame for me, I am coming for it!

I didn't see the first list as too threatening other than the destroyer and the kannon. It's got some punch, but still has all of the weaknesses of a DoC army. Honestly though, I do think the second list looks like more fun.

A combination of standing and running up an down stairs all day at work is giving me trouble in my right knee. If I keep it in the same position for too long and then move it, it cracks loudly and feels like celery snapping. I'm 28, I feel that my body owes me a few more years before this bull[big bad swear word] starts.

Got my first two snailigors finished today, I'll post pics when I get back from work tonight. Also, the majority of base coating on the giant snail is finished, I just need to do details and then wash the whole thing. Finding time to get serious painting done has been difficult, I may be recruiting the GF to do some base coats and washing for me to hurry along the process.

I hope the hellcannon has a giant moustache. Or shoots out white hot handlebar wax.

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Team name: Team Above Average (Subject to change. This is not a clever joke, the name is quite likely to change) Captain: Rudra34, Evan Secan Army: Beastmen Player: Devo, Devin Scheirman Army: Empire Player: Nephren-Ka, Colin Christopher Army: Ogres Player: Kremmet, Riley Nadeau Army: Daemons of Chaos I'll update Kremmet when I hear back from him. Edit: Updated!

Update: I am now able to send PM's to Kremmet. I have no clue why that wasn't working before.