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Uhggg... Fine... :/ Ok yes I try to be a positive person. In a game where everyone expects different things, you have to be willing to compromise and be upbeat about the game you are playing. "Yea, sure I can not play a LoW today" or "Yea, I can leave the the dark reapers at home" That being said, if you can't beat a prophyrion 7/10 times, maybe you shouldn't play in tournaments, even a casual one. "But I don't wanna play against those things!" To bad, they are part of the game. Either get used to it or don't play. GW nerfed all FW except for the fire raptor to the point of casual play only. "Well that's like just your opinion, man, that they nerfed FW." Uhh not really. Pretty sure it was at least a 15% increase across almost all unit. Big bird got a 700pt increase, fell blade 200pt, even the prophyrian got like 75pt increase. Making almost everything FW has completely points inefficient.

Whoa! I didn't think I declined, did I? If It seemed like I did, my apologies. I was thinking about how many of from SoOregon could go.

#TeamTFG is what our team name should have been. You, me, Colby. We could have totally been #ThoseFriendlyGuys!

Kinda sucks that an event that I was willing to completely change the way I play, to fit into the box of the way ordo does things, is out for me because I don't know the right people. I think the first think that should been "leaked" is that this is by invitation only cause I didn't see that anywhere. (This isn't aimed at you Pretre, just frustrated)

I'm starting to get the idea maybe this tournament isn't for me. I'm totally fine Morty warptiming himself. That tactic is good but not great. I think smite was fine the way it was. I paint very well, but my models are barely primed yet alone painted. I enjoy playing and building mostly. I also could care less about themes or fluff. I just like what the models look like and if they are good. That all being said, I want to go to this. Is there someone I can run lists by to see if they would be appropriate for the event? And I think I have a theme for a army. "The Golden Host" would be custodes, sanguinary guard and those gold imperial guard guys that I cant remember their name. Is this something that would be a acceptable theme? I think this was said before, but teams of two are ok, yes?

Why no fw? There are exactly two competitive things from fw that are undercosted or good; the raptors chapter master and fire raptors gunships. Every thing else is either just average or way to many points. And what? Team vrs team? So is this event/tournament like a doubles tournament? Can I even play if I don't have a team? I thought this was a semi casual tournament in which models should be painted and teams are present but pairings are based on individuals.

No I do... But most terrain that I've seen is somewhere about 3-8" high. And most people tend to put their models right against or in the terrain. So no deepstrikes there. Or the terrain is farther out so you miss out on the cool trick. I'm not saying it can't happen, it's just not something I would count on. And what's with all your double posts? I don't know if you noticed that...

Wait, what? That would be awesome! And when was this happening? August?

Yes. But that's a pretty slim chance of it actually working that way.

Indeed. Baneblade variants, knight variants are all appropriately priced. And all FW super heavies are all vastly overpriced. Super heavies are not an issue at all.

That's kinda the basic strategy with him. Either he gets first turn and makes his points back, then dies. Or the Morty player goes second and Morty dies.

End of 6th, I assembled 10 droppods the day before a tournament. These things can be done.

HOG? Sweet! I thought ordo tended to be more casual so I didn't want to poop in anyone's cereal in the first round. But if they section off the try hards I'm ok with that. So I have till August to finish painting then?

So last year I was going to attend the OFCC (dunno if that's the correct term for Ordo's tournament) for AoS. Started painting my army, even finished most units. But after some misunderstandings on my part I didn't attend. I wanna go this year but on the 40k side. So is this list something I can play there or should I try something softer/harder?

Well poo... I kinda wanted brims. Dunno why I thought they would work. Oh well, adjusted the list and substituted brims for slaanesh cultists, cause I need an excuse to buy more female necromunda models (skyre?). They make the best cultist!

Even though they come from the CSM codex as a troop choice?

That would be awesome! Tau slave/allies, cruud?, hive gangers, freebooters, squats, etc.

So I wanted to make a competitive chaos army that featured all the chaos gods and didn't include either primarchs (mostly cause in my experience, they die turn 1 to often). With the new demon codex, a few new tricks got added, mostly deepstriking. I'm thinking something like this could work in a competitive environment. Battalion Detachment +3CP (Mixed Chaos) Daemon Prince of Nurgle - 180pts: Malefic Talons, Wings Daemon Prince of Chaos -180pts: MoT, Malefic talons, The Impossible Robe, Wings 3x Nurglings - 54pts 3x Nurglings - 54pts 3x Nurglings - 54pts Patrol Detachment (Chaos - Khorne Daemons) Bloodmaster -56pts 30x Bloodletters - 225pts Daemonic Icon Battalion Detachment +3CP (CSM Alpha Legion) Chaos Lord with Jump Pack - 93pts Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Mark of Khorne Daemon Prince with Wings - 180pts Malefic talons, Mark of Slaanesh 32x Slaanesh Chaos Cultists w/Autoguns - 138pts 10x Slaanesh Chaos Cultists - 40pts 10x Slaanesh Chaos Cultists - 40pts 20x Khorne Berzerkers -320pts 3x Obliterators -195pts Mark of Slaanesh 3x Obliterators -195pts Mark of Slaanesh Totals 119 PL, 1998pts, 9cp So the game plan to deploy the nurglings in LoS terrain. Hopefully they either kill some scouts but they are mostly there for being the closest unit when shooting at HQs and maybe grab objectives. Turn one I'm going to "deepstrike" the bloodletters, oblits, jumpack lord and beszerkers. Move the cultists up, run and advance the khorne herald. With Banner of Blood and Khorne Chapter tactics the bloodletters get 3d6 and reroll charges. They also have about 90x 6/-3/1 attacks. Depending in what they charged, I can pop the khorne double attack stratgem and really lay into whatever they charge. The beszerkers are also there do do the same thing on the opposite side. With the alpha legion stratgem I can deploy them 9" away and still act as normal. With their 120 attacks at 5/0/1 they can also tear into just about anything. Especially with a jumpack lord right behind them. The oblits come down with the slaanesh demon prince behind, pumping out 36 shots, with the double tap stratgem, at a average of 8/-2/2 on any kinda scary thing like a knight. The demon princes provide some mortal wounds with Smite, utility with other spells/auras and form the second wave of attacks with their 7 malefic talon attacks a piece. I think the list provides the tools to take on anything. Now I just need to find obliterators since they are sold out all the time.

I thought about Skarbrand as well. He can get 40ish attacks with some stratgems. If he multicharges, with his big base, he can eat one unit and most likely force the other to stay (average ld is 7-8, 3d6 average is 10-11,so good chance there), keeping him safe from shooting. Finish up the unit in combat on their turn, charge again on your turn. The problem is it's a 9" charge with a reroll, which is nice but hardly reliable. So because you can't guarantee a charge I don't think the 300+ points is worth the risk.

Someone said Necrons and Tau are next, followed by Spacewolves

Yea I figured they would fix that. Still 3 points per wound is a good deal.

No biggie! Now it looks even better to take on bloodletters huh? Ohhh... ", not '. Although I would hope when I move them 7' you might stop me...

I'm pretty sure Banner of Blood says 1 cp... 15 man is to small of a unit. You need to the full 30 to get the 20+ unit size bonus of +1 to hit and to ensure when you charge things they get there. Deepstrike and charge 2 or three different units turn 1. Keep a khorne hq close by ( its very easy to trail some bloodletters back to get in the heralds command aura for the bonus attack) and you'll kill/tie up several units, leaving the rest of your army to advance. Whaaat? Why!?

Screw shooting! Orks need to be bashing face!

To learn the game just grab the Warboss and two 30 man squads of Boyz. That's about 500 points. Horde armies are great in this edition so bricks of Boyz and stormboyz can actually be the core of a good army.