Chappy Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA! Blood. Skulls. Happiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edosaurus Rex Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I am SUPER excited for this new book! I was already planning on running a combination of World Eaters and Khorne Daemons for OFCC this year, and this just makes it a whole lot better. I can just imagine mowing down several units with my Lord of Skulls, sacrificing some Cultists, and then turning one of my Champions into a Bloodthirster. Glorious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 AM sargents shiver in fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 AM sargents shiver in fear. AdMech? AstraMil? AnteMeri? AmpMod? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 So those rules are cute and thematic and all, but... I don't really see any possibility of this being good. It's the Daemons and CSM codices without any of the units that make either of those books good. You get Blood Tithe from getting into combat, but Khorne's problem has always been managing to get into combat- with no way to Deep Strike accurately, no good dedicated transports, and no special deployment options, you've just got a bunch of derpy guys running across the field hoping the enemy doesn't realize they can just walk in the other direction. It's a cool concept, but it may as well be titled Codex: Losing on Purpose because that's basically what it's going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's a cool concept, but it may as well be titled Codex: Losing on Purpose because that's basically what it's going to do. Take tons of MSU, lose on purpose, summon bloodthirsters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andozane Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Or, you know, play the game to have fun :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Ooh, How much is a minimum cultist squad with champion? Take a butt-ton of those. Each time they die, they give up 2 Blood Points (1 for squad being destroyed, 1 for character being slain). Plus if you take a CAD of them, that's 6 obsecs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Or, you know, play the game to have fun :) To be fair, we can do that with any army list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Silly face punching character: Chaos Lord w/ Powerfist/LCJuggernaut Sigil Armor - The Eternal Warrior , FNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I could see maxing a Slaughtercult and a cad with min sized units being entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterman Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 So those rules are cute and thematic and all, but... I don't really see any possibility of this being good. It's the Daemons and CSM codices without any of the units that make either of those books good. You get Blood Tithe from getting into combat, but Khorne's problem has always been managing to get into combat- with no way to Deep Strike accurately, no good dedicated transports, and no special deployment options, you've just got a bunch of derpy guys running across the field hoping the enemy doesn't realize they can just walk in the other direction. It's a cool concept, but it may as well be titled Codex: Losing on Purpose because that's basically what it's going to do. Fleshhounds have scout and can be joined by not so derpy juggerlords. I can see a decent army built around that, maybe too 6ed for the current meta but I don't think it's a terrible army. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Slaughtercult - if this is your primary detachment, you can re-roll Warlord Traits - if a unit of cultists from this formation fails a morale test, you can choose to remove them as casualties. - each time you spend blood tithe pts, chose a second lesser result than the first, and apply both effects. 1 HQ from the list- Chaos Lord, Daemon Prince, Herald, Blood Throne, Bloodthirster of Unfettered fury, Skulltaker 2-8 Chaos Space Marines, Berserkers, or Bloodletters 1-4 Possessed 0-2 Chaos Cultists 0-2 Chaos Spawn Gorepack - move through cover - preferred enemy-psykers - flesh hounds have hammer of wrath and bikers gain shred for their hammer of wrath attacks 2-4 Chaos Bikers 1-4 Flesh Hounds Khorne's Bloodstorm - hammer of wrath and vector strikes gain +1 S 2-4 Raptors 1-4 Warp Talons 0-1 Heldrake Brazen Onslaught - if outnumbered in close combat, add 1 to attack characteristics 1-4 Chaos Terminators 2-4 Bloodcrushers Charnel Cohort - counter attack - if this is your primary detachment, you can re-roll Warlord Traits - if HQ is in deepstrike reserve, you can re-roll its reserves roll. Other models do not scatter if placed within 6" of this unit, even on the turn they arrive. 1 HQ- Daemon Prince, Herald, Blood Throne, Skulltaker 2-8 Bloodletters 1-4 Flesh Hounds 1-4 Bloodcrushers 0-4 Skull Cannons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skkipper Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 So happy with this book. Can't wait to download it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Take tons of MSU, lose on purpose, summon bloodthirsters? Losing eight of your own units to get one new unit isn't a great plan. Ooh, How much is a minimum cultist squad with champion? Take a butt-ton of those. Each time they die, they give up 2 Blood Points (1 for squad being destroyed, 1 for character being slain). Plus if you take a CAD of them, that's 6 obsecs. You only get the Blood Tithe for a character dying (or killing one) if it's in a challenge. So 50pts per Tithe is your most basic cost there, or 400pts per Bloodthirster (assuming you can find a way to suicide them.) Or, you know, play the game to have fun :) "Just have fun" doesn't excuse poor game design. You can have fun with a well-designed book- more so, in fact, because half or more of the options aren't useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The comma on te character rule means you get it if the character is slain. Additionally you get it if he kills someone in a challenge. Stupid comma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 So 200 points per Bloodthirster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Couldnt you also just ally in a small detachment of knornekin and take advantage of the fact that you were going to be killing enemy units anyways and just have your non-khorne stuff generate the blood tokens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Couldnt you also just ally in a small detachment of knornekin and take advantage of the fact that you were going to be killing enemy units anyways and just have your non-khorne stuff generate the blood tokens.It's killed by khorne kin isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yeah, it is. Although you only need one model to have the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Oh okay that makes much more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterman Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I wouldn't bother summoning personally. Getting army wide +1 Attack and Feel No pain is much more appealing. Couldnt you also just ally in a small detachment of knornekin and take advantage of the fact that you were going to be killing enemy units anyways and just have your non-khorne stuff generate the blood tokens. There's a requirement for having the rule Blood for the Blood God to actually generate the tokens for killing or being killed. Early rumors missed that requirement. So allies could killsteal and their deaths do nothing for your tally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The comma on te character rule means you get it if the character is slain. Additionally you get it if he kills someone in a challenge. Stupid comma. I'm not 100% on the grammatical rules there and where the comma(s) should to divvy up the phrases there, but given the way the other rule is worded I would argue that it only functions in a challenge in either case. I think it's definitely something that will need a FAQ one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentP Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 "Just have fun" doesn't excuse poor game design. You can have fun with a well-designed book- more so, in fact, because half or more of the options aren't useless. Jesus. You're wailing and bemoaning a book that hasn't even been released, that we don't know all the rules for, and that no one has played a single game with. People are psyched for a new book and a new way of playing and to "have fun" and all you can do is rain on the parade. Maybe you could allow people a single day to be excited before implying they are fools for feeling that way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'm not 100% on the grammatical rules there and where the comma(s) should to divvy up the phrases there, but given the way the other rule is worded I would argue that it only functions in a challenge in either case. I think it's definitely something that will need a FAQ one way or the other.I pick on the comma but I think even without it it would still be that way. Yay rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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