BrainFireBob Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 And something to make Greenwing desirable. And something to make Vets compatable to sternguard or vanguard in terms of being an actual upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainFireBob Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Really hoping for Mortis rules, too- since loyalists already have a double ac option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 And something to make Greenwing desirable. An entire PA army which is Stubborn, with fearless ICs? Compared to other SM chapter tactics, that really isn't half bad. I just really wish they'd given grim resolve to the DA scouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 An entire PA army which is Stubborn, with fearless ICs? Compared to other SM chapter tactics, that really isn't half bad. I just really wish they'd given grim resolve to the DA scouts. I usually don't like stubborn... If something beat me so bad in combat I want to try and get away... The fearless is good especially combined with being an IC and the best rule ever "and they shall know no fear" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainFireBob Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 An entire PA army which is Stubborn, with fearless ICs? Compared to other SM chapter tactics, that really isn't half bad. I just really wish they'd given grim resolve to the DA scout Too overshadowed by the other Wings. I'd like some synergy between Green, Raven, and Death, instead of Raven and Death synergizing and Green being like an ally that doesn't use an ally slot. It doesn't *feel* right to me, not to get into touchy-feely arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I usually don't like stubborn... I am the opposite, I like the certainty that my marines won't flee a combat, even if the fight looks grim. As a side note, most opponents that SM fear to face in melee will also beat them quickly in melee. I rarely encounter the fearsome opponent that causes few enough deaths to cause morale checks, but not few enough to wipe the squad. A daemon prince, in example, will easily wipe 6 tactical marines off the table before any of the marines get to swing. Stubborn only matters here if I've got the full 10-man squad, and even there, I'd only field it as such if I need the 10-man so a power fist can swing after the 6 die. Otherwise we combat squad every time, and the squad just gets wiped without a morale check. Opponents like genestealers or gaunts will often cause the initial morale check, but will often lose to prolonged combat against PA marines. Stubborn is very good here. Too overshadowed by the other Wings. I'd like some synergy between Green, Raven, and Death, instead of Raven and Death synergizing and Green being like an ally that doesn't use an ally slot. It doesn't *feel* right to me, not to get into touchy-feely arguments. Agree. They function as multiple chapters, not multiple companies in the same chapter. They should have more synergy. I really hate that the DA Scouts and Tactical squads don't have teleport homer access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 The big thing I'm wondering is if DA will get Centurions. Centurions being "green wing" in fluff, means that they will compete even more with the terminators of 40k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 So under this proposed good green, death, raven... What's the downside? If they are codex marines just better why take codex marines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 So under this proposed good green, death, raven... What's the downside? If they are codex marines just better why take codex marines? Because you want different fluff or painting options.... Seriously, the difference between the SM chapters should be a preference. You shouldn't feel pressured to play the army because it's the only SM codex with viable rules. As for green, death, and raven wings, this is all one chapter of ~1000 marines. Of which, there is only 1 company of ravens, 1 company of death, and 7 companies of green. Green should not be lacking and it should work well with the other companies within its chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 So is DA really getting a new codex in june, or are they being launched as part of the SM codex in june...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 So is DA really getting a new codex in june, or are they being launched as part of the SM codex in june...? No one knows. There's no proof of a SM codex in june at this point yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pretre Posted June 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Automatically Appended Next Post: The Lion's Blade - Your guide to building a Dark Angels Warhost Exclusive Dark Angels Mission inside The Dark Angels strike - None shall escape Codex incoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I'm very curious if they will include a note regarding DA joining units of other SM and if the chapter traits will be suppressed like they are with the chapters within the SM codex. Or if DA will just be a supplemental chapter, pure and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Video is up... http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Whats-New-Today-from-the-White-Dwarf-Team/2015/06/10/For-the-Lion Stay safe, don 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Not being overly familiar with the recent way they release things. Does that mean I can order it on June 20th or that it will be available on June 20th? So confused. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Pre-orders open on the 20th. In stores and shipping on the 26th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Sweet! Provided it is decent (yea, I could hope) does anyone know if OFCC would allow a list from the book? David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 Any clue if it will be a supplement or a full codex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravedigger Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 I have wondered the same thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 OFCC cutoff for the Team Event was June 1st. Don't know about Doubles or the Open. I've seen nothing but speculation so far on whether it's a full Dex or just a Supplement. And I have been looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Open didn't have one last year, I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Oh and I pmd Bryan re doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pretre Posted June 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Something looks very Canadian about those prices. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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