WestRider Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I heard the Reclusiam Editions were selling out insanely quickly, so I rocked the Refresh Dance for a while and managed to get my preorder locked in. Can't wait to get my hands on that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 I like that the Deathwing Redemption Force formation doesn't require the Belial tax anymore. You may be able to make a better IC to lead your army of stompies around! -Chappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 New artwork :) Gotta say those Guardians of the Covenant look badass!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Rumor Heard Demi company grants full BS during over watch! Apparently it's in one of the preview pictures. And full company grants free transports like C:SM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Nevermind, not a rumor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 iBook preview: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303857-rumours-dark-angels-codex-interrogator-chaplain/page-43#entry4094745 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pretre Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Someone posting in the comments section of Faeit - user Alendrel:WARLORD TRAITS1 The Hunt: Warlord has Precision Shots and Ignores Cover2 Courage of the First Legion: 12" Fearless bubble for DA units3 For teh Lion! Warlord and unit has Furious Charge4 Brilliant Planning: While Warlord is on battlefield, may modify Reserve Rolls by 1 after the roll5 Rapid Manoeuvre: +3" to Flat-Out, Turbo-boost, Run, AND CHARGE MOVES6 Hold At All Costs: Warlord and unit has FnP within 3" of an ObjectiveNephilim - Blacksword missiles are now S7 AP3 and Missile Lock allows reroll misses with One-Use weapons. Avenger bolt cannon unchanged.Dark Talon - Rift cannon now S10 AP2 and if doubles are rolled on the scatter dice the shot becomes Vortex. Stasis bomb also requires models to pass I test for unsaved wounds or be removed.And remember that Vortex == Destroyer.Sacred Standard is now just a single generic entry, the unit carrying it has Counterattack and Relentless, and the usual 12" Morale reroll bubble.Interromancy powers:Primaris - Mind Worm - WC1 focussed witch fire, 12" S6 AP2 Assault 1, Ignores Cover, if model takes an unsaved wound then -3 BS/WS/I/Ld for rest of game1 - Seed of Fear - WC1 Maledication affecting all enemy units within 9", they take Morale, Pinning, and Fear on 3d62 - Righteous Repugnance - WC1 Blessing 24" grants unit Rage3 - Aversion - WC1 Malediction 24" unit may only fire Snap Shots4 - Malestrom of Misery - WC2 witchfire 24" S1 AP2 Assault 1 Blast always wounds on 4+5 - Trephination - WC2 18" focussed witchfire - affected model rolls 2d6+2-Ld and takes that many wounds with no armor or cover saves6 - Mind Wipe - WC3 24" malediction - target unit is WS1/BS1 until end of their next turn, when they have to take a Ld test, if failed effect is permanentAutomatically Appended Next Post:RW and DW Company banners are unchanged.Deathwing rule replaces Inner Circle, grants Fearless and Hatred (CSM).DW Knights maces of absolution now AP3, Smite is now basically a Smash attack: trade all attacks for one Sx2 AP2 attack, chosen per model, not limited use.DW Assault is a formation rule, everything Deep Strikes in on choice of turn 2, 3, or 4 - includes Ven Dreads in Pods.Summoned to War is a detachment rule, all units in detachment must start in Deep Strike reserve, if army has a RW Attack Squadron or Strike Force you basically choose the results of Reserve Rolls for the detachment.Summon the DW: Formation rule, models in the formation are basically 12" teleport homers for DW units.Ravenwing rule allows models to reroll failed Jink saves.Speed of the Raven detachment rule: On first tirn (or second if units in reserves), units that turbo-boost or Flat Out count as Jinking but aren't forced to Snap Shot the following turn.Ravenwing grenade launcher radshell is no longer -1T but the to-wound of 6 causes two wounds.Sammael in Sabreclaw gets a D3+1 S4 AP2 hits sweep attack.Land Speeder Vengeance plasma battery is now 36".Dark Shroud's Icon of Old Caliban is Fear and Stealth to DA units within 6" and no prevents Overwatch when those units start the Assault phase with 6" of it.Blade of Caliban no longer Unwieldy.Relic blades in as S+2 AP1 Unwieldy Two-Handed.Ezekiel grants +1A to models within 6" instead of the WS buff.Power field generator gone, but Azarael's Lion Helm does affect transport he is in.Sammael can fire both his guns now!Azarael still gets to pick his Warlord Trait off the DA chart, also grants +1 to Seize the Initiative.The Hammer of Caliban formation (Techmarine, a Land Raider of some flavor, and a unit of WW's, Preds, or Vinds) has to have the Techmarine start in the Raider, but the Raider is BS5 as long as he's in it. There's also a couple of "All the vehicles in the formation form one squadron but count as two units if destroyed" rules - I suspect one applies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Wow those sound like good psychic powers or am I on drugs? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Fluger's on drugs! De criminalization takes its toll! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 No, they look pretty interesting at first glance. If they could get a conclave, maybe we wil see them. Tasty ran the old conclave and did pretty well, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Bigglesworth Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Nevermind, not a rumor Seriously wow? So marines are the new hot stuff. Full bs! I get assault is not the most important phase, but this is intense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 So obsec or full bs overwatch? Pick your poison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonVilkee Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Does this mean they can use blast markers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I'll have to check but I'm thinking yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Does this mean they can use blast markers? Not unless it says so. Since they are overwatching, they are still snapping, even if at full BS. There are other instances of this in the rules, though I can't recall where they are off hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Any clue yet if DA are getting a full codex, or if GW decided we don't deserve one...? That's my main concern, do I have to buy SM+DA? All this formation stuff if extras. EDIT: got it on pre-order, though this has probably already been linked: http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Codex-Dark-Angels-2015-ENG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 It's a full codex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I just pull my Death Wing from the closet and counted 28 painted Terminators. Will Death Wing be a decent army again? Will I be able to field my DW Knights and feel good about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 I just pull my Death Wing from the closet and counted 28 painted Terminators. Will Death Wing be a decent army again? Will I be able to field my DW Knights and feel good about it? Probably not. The way GW's been going, you'll either have a brokenly strong DW army that makes you feel guilty because your codex is too OP, or they won't really be adequate to be a stand alone army without lots of other purchasing... I hope to be wrong, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy'sLawyer Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Probably not. The way GW's been going, you'll either have a brokenly strong DW army that makes you feel guilty because your codex is too OP, or they won't really be adequate to be a stand alone army without lots of other purchasing... I hope to wrong, of course. Well I still have just about everything I need for my Dark Angels to run a Mix Wing no problem. They are just not painted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Bigglesworth Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Well I still have just about everything I need for my Dark Angels to run a Mix Wing no problem. They are just not painted. If anything they look like they will have a better chance this time around. Come play the ladder league in the fall with them. You shouldn't see too many hard counters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threejacks Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Well I still have just about everything I need for my Dark Angels to run a Mix Wing no problem. They are just not painted. Formations are the way to go now so I suppose DW may be a viable addition as a CAD as long as they can still get Objsec somehow.Other than that it looks like you would want to go the free transport route and spam ObjSec all over the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Deathwing Knights were a blast last codex and with their revamp listed above, they'll be a blast this codex, too. Plus, just have your Deathwing be troops with a certain leader and deep strike everywhere early in the game and just be your normal stubborn selves and have fun holding objectives. Stay safe, don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 So I've already got an FAQ question.... If I kill Celestine with mind worm, does sap will carry over to her next incarnation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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