Guest Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 125 naked sure but once you start putting on guns such as the redeemer it is worth more. Land raider at 125 then able to add options 60 points for redeemer sponsons 15 for machine spirit . . . Yeah, maybe 125 without weapons or special rules. Especially if it couldn't transport bulky models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 125 for an AV 14 Assault Rhino is over priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 125 for an AV 14 Assault Rhino is over priced. Dunno, 125pts for an av14 on all sides rhino? I'd pay that. Especially given the Land Raider lacks fire points. I'd love a land raider with fire points. Don't forget the ramming rules you can use with Land Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 90 tops for an AV 14 assault box that can't carry bulky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Predators are overpriced too. They should be like 80 pts for lascannon sponson version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Predators are overpriced too. They should be like 80 pts for lascannon sponson version. So, curious, what isn't overpriced for SM (or my DA) in your eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 Terminators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 31, 2016 Report Share Posted August 31, 2016 So, curious, what isn't overpriced for SM (or my DA) in your eyes? Mostly the stuff that everyone spams or would spam more if it fit into battle company. Librarians, Grav, Centurions, Thunderfire Cannons, Scouts, Shield Eternal. Those are all either fairly priced or else underpriced. All the free gear you get in battle company becomes underpriced because you aren't paying for it and some marginal stuff becomes fair because you get ob sec on it (like single attack bikes, though, the advantage also is that they are cheap for filling out the required slots). Virtually the entirety of the heavy support section is overpriced, definitely the vehicles. Assault Marines, Terminators, and just plain ol' Tactical marines still need help. This goes to a bigger discussion about how GW assigns points values. Sometimes, in the context of a codex, it makes sense to offer a massive discount on a unit because otherwise there is no reason to bring it. Terminators are a classic example. Yes, if you take the baseline 14 pt marine and start stacking on gear you get close to their 35 pts. But, that is actually a factor of GW overpricing several things (25 pts for a power fist is ludicrous). I'd put terminators at about 25 pts a pop honestly. Either that or find a way to re-evaluate how effective terminator armor is. One thing that I think would work really well is saying that terminator armor adds one wound. Having run meganobz for a while now, I can honestly say that having that second wound is what makes them so good at wading in to big groups and killing them wholesale. Sure the lack of an invul means that anything with AP2 and S8 or better just messily ends them, but that's fine. Terminators should have something akin to that level of invulnerability to small arms but have a better chance of resisting AP2 (hence the built in invul save). Sure that would make SM characters in terminator armor even tougher (I'd revisit the shield eternal for one!), but most SM characters right now are on bikes or else in vehicles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Binary translation: Skitarri reinforcements inbound 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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InfestedKerrigan Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Upgrade Kits for Skitarii for 40k. 23.50# https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//Secutarii_Titan_Guard_Download.pdf https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/New I like the Hoplites, physically, but the Peltasts ability to give Shrouding to a unit without a psychic roll is pretty smexy. Double down to shroud a SH. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Glacius Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 I just bought the beastmen army from Pretre, Brother be broke! But those are pretty sweet. I don't think I have any unbuilt skitarii left though. I do like the Peltasts though...those guys are sweet looking. Not so much a fan of how the shield attaches to the other guys though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frowbakk Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Now I don't feel as bad having three boxes of unbuilt skitarii just sitting there mocking me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 I really like both, but can't face dealing with more resin right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Melts on your porch, not in your hand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted September 2, 2016 Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Melts on your porch, not in your hand! Balcony, but yeah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted September 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2016 Balcony, but yeah: I worry about that happening as my Hobby room is also where my cannabis is grown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Costing 750# we have the sexy, sleek SOKAR PATTERN STORMBIRD! This 850pt 14/13/12 Superheavy Flier has 12 Hull Points and 2 Void Shields it can project 12" from it's wings/hull if it hasn't moved, and yes, it has Hover. It has a transport of 50, with a single Rhino counting as 25. Dreads Count as 10, and are not restricted, unlike other recent Super Heavy Transports. The Sokar Pattern Stormbird is a Lords of War choice for any Detachment with the Space Marines, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Grey Knights*, Deathwatch and Chaos Space Marines faction. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Space-Marine-Sokar-pattern-Stormbird https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets//Sokar-Pattern-Stormbird.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Motorcycle? Stormbird? Motorcycle? Stormbird? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Jaysus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 For 1000 points you get massive blast D. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Impressive. Most impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted September 30, 2016 Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 For 1000 points you get massive blast D. Nice round price for nice round massive D. Seems appropriate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted September 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2016 Two model, 2k point army for under 2k dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted October 1, 2016 Report Share Posted October 1, 2016 I guess the biggest problem we were facing was too many usable, reasonable models in the game. So f*ck it, AV14 flyer with a Str D shot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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