InfestedKerrigan Posted August 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Still think he should have a beard. What self-respecting Space Viking doesn't have a beard? Bjorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Ragnar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I question their proper Space Viking status. Logan Grimnar knows where it's at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 A beard should be able to strangle your opponent. - Krakenbeard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Exactly! That's what I'm talking about :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Coming in at 300# and free express shipping!!!!!! THHHHHHHEEEEEE MASTODON!!!!! Sporting 14 Armor all around, dual Void Shields, and a hefty 10 HP, this beast weighs in at 700 pts. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets//Mastodon-Rules.pdf https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-Mastodon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 So......Grey Knights have unlimited access to them, Deathwatch have no access, and everyone else gets 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalripphook Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 More than one and that's your whole army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andozane Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 WANT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 Fun Fact: The original STC the Mastodon was built off was "Imperator Titan class roller skates". 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestRider Posted August 26, 2016 Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 It's basically a whole Land Raider Spearhead bolted together into one Model. And with the various buffs it gets from its equipment and being a Super-Heavy, it actually looks like a pretty good replacement for a Land Raider Spearhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2016 I want to know why the frakk the lascannons aren't twin-linked. Regardless, it screams Knight-hunter to me. Well, point and kill, really. GK could run dual NSF with the Mastodon, a Strike Squad, and a Lvl 3 Librarian. Can you take the Techmarines as a Dedicated HQ? If so, do that instead, heh, a couple in one, one in the other. 2k NSF 2 Lvl 3 Libbies 2 Techmarines 7 Termies 2 Venerable Dreads Mastodon 2 Dreadknights Everything but the DKs are in the Mastodon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chappy Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 Coming in at 300# and free express shipping!!!!!! THHHHHHHEEEEEE MASTODON!!!!! Sporting 14 Armor all around, dual Void Shields, and a hefty 10 HP, this beast weighs in at 700 pts. https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets//Mastodon-Rules.pdf https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Legion-Mastodon My Salamanders NEED this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skkipper Posted August 27, 2016 Report Share Posted August 27, 2016 I need a chaos version!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 I need a chaos version!!! It's called the "Spikey Upgrade Sprue" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skkipper Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 It's called the "Spikey Upgrade Sprue" By chaos I mean rules so I can take it to an event. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Just slap your opponent with a big ol' stack of dollar bills and then concede the game, it's basically the same thing. :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Love this rule: Reinforced Shell: The Mastodon is designed to withstand withering punishment and endure, and is fitted with a reinforced inner armour shell as well as considerable special defensive measures around its reactor core and munitions stores. As a result, if it is Destroyed, reduce the roll made on the Catastrophic Damage table by -2. If the result rolled is actually ‘0’ or ‘-1’ after this modifier is taken into account, the Mastodon does not Explode, but it instead becomes a broken shell (note that it still counts as being destroyed for the purpose of Victory points or any relevant mission objectives however). Any models transported inside suffer an immediate Strength 4 hit – Vehicles are struck on their weakest Armour value. From this point onwards, its shell is treated as a ruined building rather than a vehicle wreck, with its two doorways counted as being open access points to the interior. This would be a great way to balance Land Raiders in the current meta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbusePuppy Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Erm. The problem with land Raiders is not that the explode for S10 AP2 hits on their occupants, it's that there are fair too many categories of weapons (Melta, Haywire, Destroyer, etc) that can easily destroy them without much regard to their stats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted August 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 The Mastodon broke FW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Erm. The problem with land Raiders is not that the explode for S10 AP2 hits on their occupants, it's that there are fair too many categories of weapons (Melta, Haywire, Destroyer, etc) that can easily destroy them without much regard to their stats. Totally agree, but the issue there is that the LR point cost is balanced, more or less, with the rest of the game. So They can't really increase or decrease in point cost, and I don't think giving them more abilities to improve durability or offensive power would be fair without affecting the point cost. An ability, like this one, that affects the viability of their role as a transport, while not actually giving them any improvements while alive and on the table, that is a viability option without need to increase points. A destroyed Land Raider being treated as ruins, rather than a wreck or a crater, would be pretty useful for keeping the transported LR's contents alive after their land raider is destroyed. I'd suggest a modified version of the above, where an exploded land raider only explodes on a 4+ (still destroyed). And destroyed, but not exploded land raiders, become ruins instead of wrecks. Would make Land Raiders much more viable, while not actually needing to improve their point costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Compared to other transports in the game, Land Raiders should be about 100 pts. Maybe 125. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skkipper Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 125 naked sure but once you start putting on guns such as the redeemer it is worth more. Land raider at 125 then able to add options 60 points for redeemer sponsons 15 for machine spirit . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2016 Report Share Posted August 30, 2016 Compared to other transports in the game, Land Raiders should be about 100 pts. Maybe 125. 125? Unfortunately, the LR would have to lose some AV and HP for that to happen. Besides, Predator Annihilators are looking at 140pts for 2 lascannons and one TL lascannon on a -1 HP chasis with significantly reduced armor on all sides, plus no transport option. A stock Land raider has better weapons (Two TL lascannons and a TL heavy bolter). The issue with LRs is as AbusePuppy said, it's a matter of the many weapons that have been made commonplace which ignore the stats of the model. The LR is well balanced for the stats that it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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