Torg

I read a couple nice reviews about this new version of this game... https://jdsgamessite.wordpress.com/2021/05/18/five-parsecs-from-home-a-review/comment-page-1/?unapproved=100&moderation-hash=8d8b43d176224009d3f89583b078096f#comment-100 looks cool - I bit the bullet and ordered the book and got a PDF instantly to start out with. Built for solo play - and can be cooperative play. mini agnostic. -d

this whole topic got me thinking - when I was young ... younger ... we had a D&D Club in high school (before it was shut down by the school board in 1985) - and we had 2-3 tabes going every week after school. We died LOTS... I mean LOTS lol. And no one felt bad... or defeated or stressed. We made new characters and went back down to the low level table lol. My friends came over to my house and we played RPGs all night on weekends - and lots of characters died along the way... What happened? Did the instant gratification of MMORPGs and video games just kill the struggle it was to get a character past 10th level? lol. sure this is a subject for another thread - sorry for side quest lol. -d

exactly!

hmmm we do the same thing - rotate GMs and game systems. As a GM I really want change - so I am always getting the group to try different game settings lol. When is your next break? lol... if they want to murder hobo ... your will have a hard time breaking that habit. Although you could suggest they go play WoW or something that may fit their tastes better lol. <- I have made that suggestion in my group a few times when things get this way - I explain I am not running a simulation of a online game - etc... it never goes over well lol. -d

UGH - The game should not be stressful. I stopped GMing and playing with the group for a year after that Star Wars campaign - because the group was butt-hurt that things suddenly got harder when they murdered bound and defenseless prisoners lol. Did the party "involvement with the story" change when the new player (the muder hobo) joined? Maybe have an aside with the whole group about your concerns - not in a game session. Maybe the group needs to have a discussion about what they are expecting from the campaign. Unfortunate as it is... it sounds like things have broke down a bit with your groups social contract - you as a GM seem to be on a different page as the party is now. Just to make things less stressful - things need to be ironed out - things rarely just get better on their own. I have run into this in D&D as well as in Star Wars... now we are playing Aliens - and I have made it clear that they WILL DIE lol. As soon as Twilight 2000 is out ... it will be the same deadly-ness lol. BUT - I would allow this group to stumble - and don't allow them success if they don't put in the effort... and let players die if that is what happens. Although - that could make things worse lol. Maybe it is time for a new setting? Are they bored? -d

some questions off the top of my head ... 1) Did you have a session zero? - discussing the setting, player / party expectations and a general idea of what the game was too be about? 2) How far is this into this particular campaign or group play? IE... did they start at 5th level or has this been an ongoing game - allowing the players to slowly find their way into their characters and the setting. 3) Is the group typically "murder hobos"? At 50+... they probably won't change if that is the case. 4) So far I don't see the need for you to change your tact - if they are not thinking of fancy ways through your idea of the campaign story- all the better - they now have to deal with the guards - and the rest - if you need to let some of them get incarcerated or worse - so be it. Suddenly, your game is about prison live - or exiled living out on some gulag - all new ways for their heroes journeys to take. --- I had something similar happen in my Star Wars campaign a couple years ago - and as the GM I got to create all new paths and enemies. The players were supposed to infiltrate a prison planet - to get some info - to do so they had to figure a way in and out. They decided to be a transport for a shuttle of prisoners (gang members and others) ... and in doing so one of the players decided to threaten the prisoners to act like they wanted to allow them to sneak into the prison. Anyhow, the player didn't like it when the hardened prisoners told them no (bad die rolls) and ended up executing one of the prisoners (they were hand cuffed and prepared for transport). The outcome of this action really irritated me for weeks - the party member murdered a defenseless prisoner - so I added a whole side story about this prisoners brother - whom they meet in the prison - whom is also a gang leader - that starts asking questions about the dead prisoners who were supposed to arrive on the transport. Along with the regular mission - the party now had to deal with irritated and questioning prison gangs - The party member has ended up with a bounty on his head that he is still dodging from time to time. - He has been beaten up (in the prison) and almost died a few times - the rest of the party has saved him - but consequences drive story. Anyhow, I would be careful of your own expectations for what the party is doing to ruin your plans ... change your plans - remember they are helping - it is a cooperative story telling game. If they kill guards - they pay the consequences and have to struggle with the outcomes. -d

We had to move this table ... and he didn't move ... just kept sleeping.

I'm liking the conscripts ... and the necro conscripts - they actually moved the scales on my hesitancy on backing this lol. -d

SAME - 40$ level with several extras. I like that this is for physical metal figures. -d

I got in on that one yesterday! lol - for exactly that reason

oh sorry - ISH - where do you usually play? I liked the vikings - so I picked up a 6pt box - and I have a 4pt box for Ango-Saxon with an additional spear blister or 2 to get to 6. I have the battles book and the main Viking age books - dice and needed cards. I just need to work on painting and putting things together...lol

I get my 2nd Covid shot Friday after next - so maybe by June - where is your usual game location? I have been playing 40k in my garage with a local friend whom also has been isolated down near me. -d

Portland / Metroplex - south. Down near Aurora / Donald / Hubbard technically. Work in Tualatin / Sherwood. -d

alas - I need to build my saga armies ... and at least primer them. I picked up Viking and Anglo-Saxon to learn to play. -d

Cats in keyboards... seems likely

I am not sure... how old is the current codex for custodes? I know that most 8th armies are not up to snuff when compared to 9th ed books. So - remember that sometimes its not you... its your codex lol. But like Dark Trainer was saying - you need to find out what kinda player you are - find out how you will most like to play - and then with experience under your belt plan to make additions to your army based on that natural play style. -d

I’d find a way to play before investing too deeply - I know some game nights at stores and ORDO are going on. I’ve been playing in my garage (masked and distanced) for months. ypu need to play - at least with what you have or proxies. Get to know the rules. Do t worry about paint just yet. getting your head around rules - sequence and all that will help. The table top model and terrain are all alluring... but don’t let them distract

these will be perfect for my Dark-Age bin of shame

Where / particular location or shops? ? When - times? Interested- but busy schedule

Backed

nice - I will probably back this tower kit... and add on some train cars for my existing set lol. I will try to get some good shots on my blog - nice heavy card stock - printed both sides. Went together really easy. -d

I have the train depot (abandoned) set from the last kickstarter... great stuff. I will be taking a close look at this set. -d

I've been printing EPIC stuff on my older resin (anycubic photon S)... does a good job. The new mono looks good - with the new LCDs being a revolution in speed and detail. The resins are hazardous - and require some care when dealing with them. But the results can be really nice. -d

My Eldar will gather dust till then... I have been thinking I will be lucky to get a codex by mid next year (2021)... but I wouldn't be surprised if that slid till Q4. Until then I will probably try some Ad Mech... and some Infinity N4 -d

I will have to look for that podcast... I learned of Monster of the week on another podcast I listen to "Role Playing Public Radio"