PourSpelur Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Tried the Future Floor Polish wash method the other day. I gotta admit, it impressed the hell out of me! I like how it really pulls into the recesses. In all honesty I'll probably never buy another wash again, it's that good. That and my obsession with mixing my own paints paints are a dangerous combination.. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Tried the Future Floor Polish wash method the other day. I gotta admit, it impressed the hell out of me! I like how it really pulls into the recesses. In all honesty I'll probably never buy another wash again, it's that good. That and my obsession with mixing my own paints paints are a dangerous combination.. ;) Explain the method. I'm so sick of buying washes... -Pax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroZero Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 It has been the best kept secret for decades. It is the bomb. Plenty of guides out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 I used: 1 part Future 4 parts water 4ish drops green airbrush paint 6ish drops black airbrush paint 13ish drops brown airbrush paint In a travel shampoo bottle. Just mix 4:1 water:future for a base and tint to taste 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Awesome, thanks. -Pax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Love Magic wash! Future floor finish is now called Pledge Floor Wax with Future Shine. It can be found at Ace Hardware for 10 a bottle. Worth it IMO. I also use it as an airbrush thinner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosGerbil Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Doesn't it dry shiny? I got some Army Painter anti-shine recently but haven't tried it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Didn't notice it being particularly shiny. The last pic in my "Mutant Skum" thread is a finished tank I used it on. The darkest skin by the main cannon has magic wash. The next two shades of skin working towards the back of the turret have traditional light pin washes and heavy drybrush for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobert Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 CaptainA made some for me over two years ago. It's been great up to last summer but has lost it's magic now and doesn't find receses well anymore. FYI. Use it or lose it. Does it have to be airbrush paint? Can you just thin regular Vallejo paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 I just used the airbrush paint because it has a good strong pigment, mixes easily and I have a ton of it. I can't see having any trouble with Vallejo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainA Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 That stuff I made has just black acrylic paint from Michaels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted February 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Ask and ye shall receive;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Bungalow Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's awesome. And super cheap. Mix with some colored inks for washes that cost pennies on the dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobert Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I've mixed up my own batch and used it. For about 30 seconds after application, the lines and details are crystal clear, deep black, look awesome. Then as it dries, the ink seems less dark in the crevases. Once it dries it ends up looking like the model is just dirty on the flat surfaces. It's almost as if the liquid "osmosisizes" (that's not a real word I know) itself out of the cracks. Same experience anyone? I have a potential solution which I call "flash dry". Dip/wash/spray the model and place directly under a hot lamp. I use a desk lamp from WalMart that is not a 'heat lamp' per se but does put a lot of light and heat out. This seems to dry the model before the magic is lost. The downside is this "flash dry" makes it shiny-er but I'm clear matte coating them anyway so don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Bungalow Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I actually mix it with nine parts water and add a few drops of matte medium. This cuts the gloss down to almost nothing. Especially if you highlight to white. But yes, magic wash. Mix it. Use it. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_bryan Posted May 22, 2014 Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 I switch out the acrylic paint with Higgins Black Ink when I am going for a black line wash. The color saturation is much better in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PourSpelur Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I've added flow improver to my recipe and it draws into the recesses better now. I'll second the "use it or lose it" sentiment. From now on I'll be making much smaller batches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Bungalow Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 The vallejo style dropper bottles are a great option for mix-your-own washes. Especially if you can get some stainless steel ball bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscentStudios Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 I switch out the acrylic paint with Higgins Black Ink when I am going for a black line wash. The color saturation is much better in my opinion. Seconded on the Higgins. I just went to a Blick store, and got the stuff to make Les Bursley's Magic Washes - costs a little more but I greatly prefer it over Future Floor Wax-based washes. I've made the basic Soft Body black, and my own Dirty Metal mix (30 drops black, 5 of sepia per oz) and it works a treat on my Dropzone Commander army. Check it: http://www.awesomepaintjob.com/index.cfm/resources.recipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Trainer Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Does this method 'seal' the mini too. or just a wash? Eliminate the need for dullcote and such? Like it becomes the finisher (minus highlighting after...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscentStudios Posted May 23, 2014 Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 You could seal a mini using Future but I wouldn't use the wash. Reason being that it sinks to the low points, and you need the high points sealed the most since that's where you make the most physical contact with the model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Bungalow Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 As far as I can tell, magic wash isn't especially useful as a lacquer. Aerosol products are far-and-away the best option for the final seal phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinewgrab Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 The version of magic wash I have been using for the last 15 years or so is 50% Future, 25% isopropyl alcohol, and 25% float medium (I liked Ceramcoat Color Float when I can find it). The alcohol quickens the dry time a touch, and the float medium actually helps the colors when you mix it. I mix it depending on how deep I want the ink tone, usually about 5 parts wash to 1 part ink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobert Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 I found that increasing the amount of Future in the mix makes in "sink in" to the cracks more. Do the rest of you concur? Thanks for the suggestion of Higgins Black Ink, I will try that next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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