dkieft Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Veskit, honor demands that you attend OFCC. So be there or else. Other Canadians can come if they like. Except Mark... honor demands him too. Oh hell... honor demands you all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashthedean Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Dan, which End Times armies have you fought against that have been un-fun and what kinds of lists were they bringing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdave Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 The fact that a TOMB KINGS army won the US MASTERS using ET/Lore of Undeath in a SwedeComped event should tell us something about ET and the altered meta it creates. I trust Sylvos will weigh and weight ET correctly. First line of defense is and should be the players themselves, secondly their respective captains. If something agregious slips through to Sylvos then shame on them. Both of them, but especially the captain. Let's take our responsibilities seriously gentlemen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvos Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 After the 15th of April I will see what teams have paid for the event and invite those captains to the Captain's Forum where I will be outlining items to watch and the pitfalls of Swedish Comp. (As well as how to properly match up their teams). ((Yes there will be an announcement ffs)) (((Yes it will be in the OFCC Fantasy section))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kremmet Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Ehh, Malekith isn't really all that. I'm not saying he's not a beast, but he's definitely not better than Nagash and, from a competitive point of view, not better than KFA. Hell I'd probably bring Imrik if I weren't so obsessed with getting the most out of special rules on SCs and Avatar of Khaine Tyrion is also way more likely to win you games than EK Malekith. I do find the fear of him to be interesting. Have you guys been fighting against the other heavy hitters in ET at all or is it that you just don't happen to bring the tools needed to shut Malekith down? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I lose the eternity king in roughly 50% of the games I use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNathanson Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 ... the tools needed to shut Malekith down? Which tools in the Bretonnia army book shut him down? If you're not having trouble with him, I'm not convinced your opponents are using him right. But I think we had a thread on this guy already :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanNinja Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Which tools in the Bretonnia army book shut him down? If you're not having trouble with him, I'm not convinced your opponents are using him right. But I think we had a thread on this guy already :) Lore of heavens for the lore attribute to get more hits on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distaff Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Dan, which End Times armies have you fought against that have been un-fun and what kinds of lists were they bringing? One example springs to mind: Aidan's son ( I can't recall his name) Brought Karl Franz Ascended to BSB and wiped Dan off the table. Aidan's son is ~9 years old. Dan is a seasoned tournament vet. Even a 9 year old can figure out that most of the counters to 800+ point combat heroes rely on them inexplicably not being in combat, and charge something turn 2. The End Times, I guess they're a good leveler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashthedean Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Maybe End Times special characters should just be banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'd be frustrated as heck if it were me, so I completely understand Dan's reaction. However... The image of Dan getting tabled by a 9 year old is absolutely delightful! :) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blustorm Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'd be frustrated as heck if it were me, so I completely understand Dan's reaction. However... The image of Dan getting tabled by a 9 year old is absolutely delightful! :) It reminds me of the time at OFCC, when we were thinking of handicapping Dan by making him play a game while wearing a blindfold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 So the assumption is that it's as a result of End Times, and not Aidan raising his kid right? Cuz that sounds like some pretty good parenting to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluger Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It reminds me of the time at OFCC, when we were thinking of handicapping Dan by making him play a game while wearing a blindfold. I beat Dan once when he was SUPER drunk. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mekhet Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 One example springs to mind: Aidan's son ( I can't recall his name) Brought Karl Franz Ascended to BSB and wiped Dan off the table. Aidan's son is ~9 years old. Dan is a seasoned tournament vet. Even a 9 year old can figure out that most of the counters to 800+ point combat heroes rely on them inexplicably not being in combat, and charge something turn 2. The End Times, I guess they're a good leveler? Dan also came 20th in that tournament, while Fin came 35th (out of 40). Also let's not all act like Dan being tabled by a 9 year old is out of the ordinary ;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veskit Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Actually I find the fact I came in 20th exceptional since my first game saw me tabled by a chaos legion army, and fintan tabled me with KFA by himself (he didn't need the rest of his army in that game). The eternity king army I faced in that tournament was played by someone completely new who made a lot of mistakes.... the skaven I played should have tabled me too, but he also seemed new and made lots of mistakes. The dwarf army with few warmachines was more of a novelty army, he was a good player but had no tools for dealing with all the scouting and tunnelling I had. I think getting 20 in that tournament was an achievement with vanilla TK. It's not even the special characters, many units become much better in eternity king but cost no different with the overlap upgrades. Having a casket in a regular VC build to give it a stronger magic phase is very good. etc... there are plenty of not-well thought out ideas in end times books aside from the characters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 There should be a historical OFCC page, where I can go back and see samples from any given year's OFCC. See the highlights, the winners, how many teams showed up, what the Ordo Outrage Topic (OOT) was that year and a sample of 'best/worst' posts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 There should be a historical OFCC page, where I can go back and see samples from any given year's OFCC. See the highlights, the winners, how many teams showed up, what the Ordo Outrage Topic (OOT) was that year and a sample of 'best/worst' posts. Being able to see the lists for each team, the match ups, etc would be pretty awesome. Some of the soft scores, I don't know if the entire community needs to be seeing, although I know people who used to frequent the forum would've liked to have had access to all of it, but I digress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 They don't ever post score breakdowns anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krieger Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Veskit, Why not just bring an End Times army too? If there is new stuff in the game that is better and stronger then what you have in your list. Why wouldn't you wanna bring something new yourself? I have been playing TK for all of 8th and I wouldn't bring the same lists we TK players have been using for the past couple years. Just using lore of undeath helps a lot. Just ask Mexican Ninja about the game we had. I say embrace the change. Use some new End Times stuff and come see what you're missing. Obviously everyone wants you to come and enjoy yourself. There wouldn't be so many posts on this thread otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan-of-War Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Not me. Dan is a meanie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvos Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 They don't ever post score breakdowns anyways. Well, things change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretre Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Ooh. That'd be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfestedKerrigan Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Well, things change... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMGraham Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Hey, how'd this work out. You coming, Dan? I hope so! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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